Thread: 8 Hour Lucidity - Need Researchers

Well last night when i jumped into bed, i tried to remain concious for 90minutes so i could enter REM conciously from sleep onset.

When i say 'remain concious' i wasnt focusing on anything. I wasnt 'using energy' and it did infact feel like i was resting. It was not like i was sitting there thinking 'aww hurry up, im getting tired'. I just sat and enjoyed the random thoughts, sounds, and images that popped up.

I went for what must have been a good hour. Then the next thing i know, im in sleep paralysis - and have an awesome WILD. Afterwards i wake up and find that i was only in bed for about an hour and a half, meaning that i had WILD'd on the first sleep cycle and almost managed to stay aware for a full cycle.

Well, i foolishly took some 'Nightol' stuff cause i have a cold.

These tablets make you drowsy tho, so i fell alseep almost instantly i dont remember a THING.

No tabs tonight tho, so here goes!

good luck m8, i hope it works for u.

I wonder whether or not if the 'western' world is geared towards mental aspects as such and dedication that the Tibetan monks show. Their ambitions are on a religious scale and so therefore their depth of devotion is a lot stronger as this is part of their culture. But I’m sure you will overcome that aspect pretty damn easily!

It’s pretty cool that you can lie conscious for well over an hour as I lose patience really easily lol. If u could maybe put together a step by step when you become more attuned with this im sure many on Dreamviews members would be really grateful including myself!

Keep up the good work m8

Originally Posted by Niddiboy

good luck m8, i hope it works for u.

I wonder whether or not if the 'western' world is geared towards mental aspects as such and dedication that the Tibetan monks show. Their ambitions are on a religious scale and so therefore their depth of devotion is a lot stronger as this is part of their culture. But I’m sure you will overcome that aspect pretty damn easily!

It’s pretty cool that you can lie conscious for well over an hour as I lose patience really easily lol. If u could maybe put together a step by step when you become more attuned with this im sure many on Dreamviews members would be really grateful including myself!

Keep up the good work m8

Thanks for the encouragement dude!

Update:

Thinking without monologue (or without using words to think about things; eg; "hmm..i wonder why i just randomly thought about a cat") seems to be a good way to remain aware but also allowing your subconcious to take over and start throwing out random thoughts as you fall asleep, allowing you to fall deeper into the sleep process.

Focusing on a thought, or putting it into words - seems to stop the random thoughts from coming. This makes sense. I think the trick is to remain 'aware' but not to focus on the thoughts. In a way, 'hide' from your brain - Be there, but dont make any noise.

The problem is that throughout the day our awareness arises usually through us analysing things, questioning them, and running them through our brain. However in this case, you have to learn to be aware - without over assesing the thought itself, but this can lead you to loosing conciousness. Hmm. Its a tricky one.

I dont think this is something that i can just 'realise' how to do. I really think its something that needs excersised.

So off i go!........

Wow ;o I woke up after every sleep cycle last night, and had 2 perfect WILD's.

I can remember a bunch of non-lucids aswell.

I suppose its progress, =P

I used to do this almost every day for almost an hour. I used to have a bus that took me to school, and I would sleep on the bus. ( it was, indeed, almost an hour and a half getting to school ). I would go to sleep and be perfectly aware of myself and everything around me. I could hear and think, but I was asleep ( or maybe I achieved a high form of meditation on accident ). Either way, it was very cool and I could wake myself out of it in less than a second. The only thing was, I always woke up very tired and cold ( yes cold, felt like somebody put ice in my veins ).

Originally Posted by oniman7

I used to do this almost every day for almost an hour. I used to have a bus that took me to school, and I would sleep on the bus. ( it was, indeed, almost an hour and a half getting to school ). I would go to sleep and be perfectly aware of myself and everything around me. I could hear and think, but I was asleep ( or maybe I achieved a high form of meditation on accident ). Either way, it was very cool and I could wake myself out of it in less than a second. The only thing was, I always woke up very tired and cold ( yes cold, felt like somebody put ice in my veins ).

Oh Wow! Nice

Waiting for the results, good luck

Originally Posted by roland3tr

Waiting for the results, good luck

Thanks dude ^^

Originally Posted by oniman7

I used to do this almost every day for almost an hour. I used to have a bus that took me to school, and I would sleep on the bus. ( it was, indeed, almost an hour and a half getting to school ). I would go to sleep and be perfectly aware of myself and everything around me. I could hear and think, but I was asleep ( or maybe I achieved a high form of meditation on accident ). Either way, it was very cool and I could wake myself out of it in less than a second. The only thing was, I always woke up very tired and cold ( yes cold, felt like somebody put ice in my veins ).

Oh yea just wondering. Can you remember what your sort of thought pattern or attitude was as the time? What did you think about/did you think at all?

I did think, but it was more relaxed. I allowed random thoughts to come to me, but as you described it, I did think with sort of a "monologue". I think the busy, loud environment of the bus helped keep me kind of aware. I also seem to have a natural affinity for these things. My thought process was also sometimes based on what I was hearing around me or what I had going on at school that day.

Good luck in achieving this! It would be really cool if you do, this way you can get sleep AND not spend a third of your life being unconscoius.

Originally Posted by oniman7

I did think, but it was more relaxed. I allowed random thoughts to come to me, but as you described it, I did think with sort of a "monologue". I think the busy, loud environment of the bus helped keep me kind of aware. I also seem to have a natural affinity for these things. My thought process was also sometimes based on what I was hearing around me or what I had going on at school that day.

Ah i see. What about your body? Did you think about it/not think about it/not care?

I think ive done this as a child once.

Lol this sucks. I did everything as a child. Got stuck in SP, had accidental WILD's, which ofcourse all lead to nightmares.
Now i have to TRY to get these things -_-

Originally Posted by Corpse

Good luck in achieving this! It would be really cool if you do, this way you can get sleep AND not spend a third of your life being unconscoius.

Thankyou!

Cool, this would improve so much the things you can do in lucids, good luck with it.
Oh I has woke myself from lucids at 12/1 PM (1 hour or so after going to sleep) but dunno if that has anything to do with this <.<

Hey Dizko, I'll help you and be a subject.

Only problem is, how do I stay awake for 90 minutes without feeling bored?

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

Hey Dizko, I'll help you and be a subject.

Only problem is, how do I stay awake for 90 minutes without feeling bored?

Patience ;P

I dont feel bored because im just happy to be relaxing. Im not in school and while im lying in bed i have no responsibilites or duties.

Granted

But how do you stay awake?

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

Granted

But how do you stay awake?

Thats what im researching ^_^

Also it would help if other people were to try, come up with their own tactics and then share them.

Once my mom said it took me five minutes to wake me up, and yet I could remember the last three hours (of me sleeping) clearly, and I only heard her once! I think I'm going crazy.

From words to sounds, from sounds to feelings, from

Dizko, this

Originally Posted by ClouD

From words to sounds, from sounds to feelings, from

Dizko, this

Thanks ClouD, i was hoping you'd come along with a little pearl of wisdom. ;p

If i understand you right, you mean to first be aware of my inner 'words', like my monologue, then to drop that and focus on whatever internal sounds i hear. Then after that to be aware only of feelings. I'm guessing you don't mean physical feelings. And afterwards, to just...'be'.

Am i reading you right cap'n? o.0

Now, here, awareness, this.

Whatsoever is, is this.

Remain aware through any perception through day, through night.

Take whatever technique, just remain.

edit" whaaattttever.

Originally Posted by ClouD

Now, here, awareness, this.

Whatsoever is, is this.

Remain aware through any perception through day, through night.

Take whatever technique, just remain.

edit" whaaattttever.

Kay.

Lol.
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There's much to say about the topic, but not a right way to say it.

Divided attention is non-lucidity. Live life as a play, and whatever you do, do with undivided attention.

Be aware of anything or everything or nothing, just be. Accept lucidity as your undivided nature.

8 hour lucidity is not difficult. 8 hour non-lucidity is anemic from this perspective. Awareness is free will; awareness is life.

Sorry to ramble on.