Thread: If matter cant be created or destroyed, where did all this stuff come from?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

If God can't be created or destroyed, where did he come from?

He is simply the product of a deranged imagination.

You're missing part of that theory.

Matter can't be created or destroyed it can only change form
Matter came from energy. Strings vibrating at certain frequencies in 12 dimensions create matter (so we think)

Originally Posted by ninja9578

You're missing part of that theory.

Matter can't be created or destroyed it can only change form
Matter came from energy. Strings vibrating at certain frequencies in 12 dimensions create matter (so we think)

Well once again, some people only think that they can create matter, but nobody knows for sure. I am basing my argument on tried and true principles that have been agreed upon for centuries, and that is that nothing can be created or destroyed, it can only change form. No, i didnt forget that part. I just dont think its really relevant because even if all of the matter did come from energy in the beginning, the question still remains, Where did all the energy come from?

The universe has always existed, and always will exist. The universe came from the singularity, and expanded. Everything in existence is inside the singularity, so really, there is no outside of the singularity. Because the outside of singularity doesn't exist. The singularity is thought, or a consciousness that's aware of itself and doesn't have a beginning or an end( that's linear thinking, it's hard for us to comprehend something that is infinite ), it is just there..it's energy. We're simply the singularity experiencing itself subjectively.


What is matter made of? Well let's see, molecules break down into groups of atoms, atoms break down into groups of electrons, protons, and neutrons, these subatomic particles break down into quarks.....and I think the quarks are broken down into strings that vibrate at a certain Frequency. What are the strings made of? Well, if scientist actually try to break down these strings, they'll keep breaking it down and down infinitely....you see there's always going to be something there to look at. We can't see the real reality which is that everything is energy, because we are apart of that energy that is self-aware. If someone or something outside of the singularity or universal consciousness looked at the singularity or universal consciousness, all they would see is energy. But that's impossible, because nothing is outside of energy, everything that exists, has existed, or will it exist is energy.

It's sort of like when Neo loses his vision in The Matrix Revolutions....everything is energy..or information.



I also thought this was an interesting idea.

We are all one consciousness which has not the means for subjective experience as it is, experienced subjectively through applying physical stimuli. Time, reality, and all other and higher dimensions exist all at once as a singularity, just as our familiar dimensions of 3-dimensional physical space exist all at once.

Therefore, time experienced subjectively is an illusion, albeit a beautiful and powerful one. Because of this, the universal consciousness is able to subjectively experience itself as all things simultaneously and separately. To do so, it operates as a 'consciousness machine', which basically is always in the process of experiencing all things, all at once, regardless of time, distinct reality present in, and so forth.

To do this, it produces a physical shell which, through some as-of-yet undiscovered physical properties, be it a brain or otherwise, 'filters' or limits awareness of certain dimensions.

Consciousness is the key to it all.

Alright, everyone ready- Sometime in the future we realize that the universe is going to be (insert apocalyptic shit here) At this we have the ability to create worm holes. We setup two worm holes on opposite sides of the universe. It sucks everything in to forms of pure energy- these collide and create matter and antimatter
TADA THE FUCKING STRING THEORY OR SOMETHING

This thread is 11 pages long...so tl;dr...but did anyone point out that the title of this thread is a misnomer.

ENERGY cannot be created or destroyed.

Matter IS energy.