Thread: An idea for having Lucid Dreams the scientific way

Originally Posted by Quark

Yeah, stimulating visual areas results in the subject perceiving random streaks of colour etc.

If my visual area is not working, I probably won't see anything. If you get current flowing, and the area activates, I am able to see again.

If my logical area is not working due to sleep shutdown, I will likely be irrational and not realize inconsistencies in the dream around me. If the logical areas are stimulated and begin working again, then doesn't it follow that using logic becomes possible again?

Originally Posted by Licity

If my visual area is not working, I probably won't see anything. If you get current flowing, and the area activates, I am able to see again.

Er, seriously? Does this work in the blind? And what is seen?

If my logical area is not working due to sleep shutdown, I will likely be irrational and not realize inconsistencies in the dream around me. If the logical areas are stimulated and begin working again, then doesn't it follow that using logic becomes possible again?

Using logic might become easier, but it might not be good logic. Again, without some existing internal suspicion that you are dreaming, how would that activation guarantee that you correctly apply your new "logical" feeling?

Originally Posted by Abra

Er, seriously? Does this work in the blind? And what is seen?

If the eyes or optic nerve or that part of the brain are physically incapable of seeing, it obviously wouldn't work because there is no visual input. If you reactivate the vision center of the brain in an otherwise healthy person, won't it enable the processing of what the eyes are detecting?

Originally Posted by Abra

Using logic might become easier, but it might not be good logic. Again, without some existing internal suspicion that you are dreaming, how would that activation guarantee that you correctly apply your new "logical" feeling?

The OP and the research indicate the reason that we don't object to oddities in a dream is because we are incapable of making the logical connection that what is in front of you cannot possibly be real. Logic, by definition, is what provides the existing internal suspicion of dream by pointing out to the rest of the brain that bugs usually don't wear purple hats, or whatever your dream sign may be. If you are going to continue insisting that logic cannot discover a dream on its own, how do you explain away people that have a lucid dream without knowing what it is?

The activation of the logic center isn't a magic bullet, it just boosts the odds of becoming lucid. It's like a lucidity aid, but for dream signs instead of vividness.