Science can explain everything. |
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Last edited by PhilosopherStoned; 03-21-2011 at 10:46 AM.
Previously PhilosopherStoned
Science can explain everything. |
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Add "yet" to the title, of course. |
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Why it is, in this day and age, people can get a stack of papers from the most prestigeous institutes of learning, and yet still speak no better than a cave man, asserting that the inannimate is the animate. The dreaded beast call Anthropomorphism stalks mankind, and kills by the billions and billions. |
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Zi-lu said, "The ruler of Wei has been waiting for you, in order with you to administer the government. What will you consider the first thing to be done?" |
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Last edited by Philosopher8659; 03-25-2011 at 02:12 PM.
In b4 people are like "dude, no one knows what that means or how it relates to the topic." |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Yes, however everyone understands what is meant by the question in the OP. So it does not matter. |
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Last edited by tommo; 03-25-2011 at 04:11 PM.
There's nothing science can't explain. There are only things the current batch of scientists can't explain. BIG difference. |
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
As stated, the claim is obviously wrong. Can science explain why it is morally wrong for me to murder my neighbors and steal their belongings? Cmind may not have intended his claim to encompass these sort of questions, but like I said, it does as stated, and consequently is obviously wrong. |
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Yes I think moral problems are beyond the scope of science. Science is an organized body of knowledge that attempts to explain and predict events in the natural world. It does not attempt to explain morality. |
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One can argue that societies with these behaviours did not fare well when pitted against societies that care about one another. One can argue that compassion and doing well by those similar to you has evolved much like pair-bonding and nurturing (for raising the little ones). |
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That's not an explanation for whether or not the action is morally wrong. That's simply an explanation for why the opinion that the action is wrong happens to be common among modern humans. Surely you understand the difference. |
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It doesn't imply that there is an objective morality. Let morality be as subjective as you like. Let every man have his own morality. Does that now somehow make the issue of whether an action is morally wrong a scientific question? Better yet, can science explain why there is or is not an objective morality in the first place? |
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Well, I never said science can answer everything. I'm just wondering why exactly a question on morality can't be answered using science. We have the technology to examine how the brain works, and how moral decisions are made. If morality exists in the minds of humans, we have the increasing technological ability to detect it and understand it. To some extent, we already have. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, here. We have a somewhat good understanding of how humans set moral codes, and how moral decisions are made on an individual basis. So yeah, at least in part, we have the ability to analyze morality in scientific terms. |
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Science gives us the tools to answer questions about how humans perceive morality. So in this sense, I completely agree that science can answer certain questions related to morality. I am interested in such questions myself. But there are fundamental questions of morality that it can't answer, because they aren't empirical questions at all. Can you or I perform an experiment that will tell us whether or not it is morally wrong to murder my neighbors and steal their belongings? Of course not. We could, in principle, perform such a sadistic "experiment" to tell us what the social and psychological consequences of such an action may be. (Good luck getting IRB approval on that one!) But at the end of the day, whether or not those social and psychological consequences amount to moral wrong-doing is a judgment call that is not within the realm of science. That's my only point, and I'm a little confused at your resistance to accept what seems to me to be such an obvious point. |
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I already said that. Except you tried to refine it and made it wrong. The current batch of scientists may be able to explain it, they just haven't yet. |
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Last edited by tommo; 03-26-2011 at 01:05 PM.
Do you mean it? lol |
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