Thread: Goku vs. Superman -> Who'd Win?

Originally Posted by Marvo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2D4PtvI

Heh. I didn't even realize that quote was actually from his fight with Darkseid.

Judging on the attacks, though, and all of the attacks I've seen SSJ Goku endure, I'd have to say that he would have gotten right back up just as Darkseid did.

As far as offensive power, here is the last bit of his fight with Cell, where he goes all out. Even the air from their missing attacks shatters the boulders and hillsides dozens of yards away from them. The person who edited the fight took out all of the filler, but there is one part where the announcer watching from a safe distance is freaking out and says something like "They're punching each other so hard I think the whole planet is shaking!!!!" And this is all after they had already been fighting forever and Goku is fatigued and had expended a lot of his energy.

I really want to see the Wizard Magazine issue that did a comic strip of this fight, which I keep reading about. Has anyone seen it?

i'm sorry but there is no way goku would win unless he had kriptonite. superman is indestructible!

Originally Posted by ray

i'm sorry but there is no way goku would win unless he had kriptonite. superman is indestructible!

No he's not.

http://graphicworlds.files.wordpress...f-superman.jpg

kriptonite is the exception....

Originally Posted by ray

kriptonite is the exception....

As is a severe-enough ass beating.


(It played out a little differently in the comic, though.)

okay......

Originally Posted by ray

okay......

Don't roll your eyes at me, woman!!

lol

(Superman's also very vulnerable to magic, by the way. )

lol where'd you learn this nifty secret?

Originally Posted by ray

lol where'd you learn this nifty secret?

It's pretty well known, actually.

Here's from the wiki, but it doesn't really go into detail:

For most of his existence, Superman's famous arsenal of powers has included flight, super-strength, invulnerability to non-magical attacks, super-speed, vision powers (including x-ray, heat-emitting, telescopic, infra-red, and microscopic vision), super-hearing, and super-breath, which enables him to blow out air at freezing temperatures, as well as exert the propulsive force of high-speed winds.[90]

Here's a good Q/A, though.
Superman's weaknesses (other than Kryptonite)

In another forum that I am part of, there is a "draft" of heroes and in that draft I chose Goku with my first choice. With my second choice I took Spawn. Those are pretty much my two favorite heroes. I'm not trying to promote the forum, but if you want to see it so maybe we could do something like it here at dreamviews, then come and look:http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31529

In this battle I would have to give a slight edge to Goku. It would be a very good fight, but I think Goku would last longer.

goku isnt magical though...his attacks are his energies not magic...

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

Those are pretty much my two favorite heroes.

Yyyyuuup. Same here.

Originally Posted by ray

goku isnt magical though...his attacks are his energies not magic...

Never said he was.
That was in response to your comment that he he was indestructible to anything but kryptonite.

Also, Doomsday wasn't magical either, and he whooped that ass. Granted, he was also kryptonian, but it shows that Supes isn't invulnerable to all physical attacks.

I'd kick his ass.

Originally Posted by shroom

You ripped off my thread idea asshole. When i find my post on another forum ill explain exactly why Goku rules.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Obviously you don't read comics.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

You all are playing the Man of Steel like he's weak. Don't any of you know about pre-crisis superman?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

You're completely ignorant about Superman and your biased views regarding both characters are blatantly obvious. Sure Goku can harness the power of "every soul on earth" but Superman can harness the power of the FUCKING sun. You know...that big yellow thingy in the sky that hurts to stare at. Check mate.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Again, ignorance regarding pre-crisis superman is showing.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

You've GOT to be joking...

Superman could annihilate an Oozaru without much effort. Sure their power is awesome but their atomic size is their downfall. Like the Ultra Super Saiyan (USSJ) form. When transformed into USSJ (as evidenced by Trunks in the Cell saga) your strength multiplies greatly than that of a regular Super Saiyan (SSJ), but your speed declines so much where the transformation is ultimately written off as useless. To put it simply, USSJ is the retarded version of SSJ2. Size does matter, despite what you hear most women say .

Originally Posted by Jeff777

-sigh- Alright, look man...I'll highlight the bullets.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Know your place and piss off...fucking newb.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

"Goku cock riders"

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

(Superman's also very vulnerable to magic, by the way. )

Originally Posted by Man of Steel

I'd kick his ass.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Sad really.

I have the power to harness nerd rage.

I'd win, right?

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

I have the power to harness nerd rage.

I'd win, right?

The potential would be there...

But, fortunately for your opponents, you'd probably just spend all that extra nerd energy on starting another RP in Arcane.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

The potential would be there...

But, fortunately for your opponents, you'd probably just spend all that extra nerd energy on starting another RP in Arcane.

Ah...

Spoiler for RP SECRET ENDING:

It would end prematurely.

Also, innuendo.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

Look at how weak superman is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-oaSSUpKBo
he can barely beat a wwe wrestler.

I'm guessing this was a joke...

As always girl who plays Lois is hot as that wrestler lady who I had forgotten her name when I realized that wrestling was men in tights playing actors.

As to who will go victorious...Goku. Simply put, he was made to be the most strongest being in the universe. It wouldn't even be fair for these to to meet because they were both thought up differently.

People all say that superman is invulnerable to everything but kryptonite. Yes, it does say that in storyline BUT. The assumption that he is invulnerable to everything else, is based on what he has been up against. He has fought kryptonians, man-made supermen (sun-man in 1 of the old superman movies, forget which 1) the people he has faced are either humans, his own kind, or some noobs. He can juggle planets and take out a solar system with ease but he has never faced an opponent with more power than himself, only his own kind or weak-ass humans. he can fly into the core of a sun, well goku fought against the fire dragon in DBGT who had skin hotter than the sun's core. yet it did not even singe his leg hairs. Buu destroyed entire galaxies single handedly, PC superman only took out a solar system ( solar system=1 sun+some planets, galaxy=collection of solar systems)Now if buu could do that, yet he could be destroyed by goku in SSJ3 form, what happens when he goes to SSJ4?

Majuub in DBGT is said to be more powerful than kid buu, since he is the combination of the reincarnated kid buu+fat buu. yet he is no match for SSJ4 goku. goku could destroy an entire galaxy at will with a single blast if he wanted to. superman is invulnerable to his own kind, because they only hit as hard as he does, not harder. goku's dragon fist is his ultimate punch. in ssj4 form he would punch a hole right through superman. oh so superman is resistant to needles? goku only needs to focus his ki and the needle would break too. goku is strong through ki, superman through brute strength. the fact that superman was killed by doomsday, proves he is not invulnerable and he can be killed. now goku is much more powerful than doomsday. superman wont stand a chance. PC superman is very powerful yes i agree, but against a force which can destroy galaxies in a heartbeat, i doubt he can do much. goku is noted to be unbreakable. master roshi says in the original DB when goku is fighting tien at the 2nd tournament " no matter what punishment he takes, he will always get up, his ENDURANCE is unmatched"

superman's fighting style makes him weak, goku moves so fast when fighting that he would evade every single blow superman throws at him
when superman punches you twice, it looks like twice when goku punches you 10 times, it looks like once. superman's laser eyes would always miss goku. in the ginyu force saga, when berta and jace are fighting goku for the first time, they fire energy beams at him. it appears as if the beams pass right through him, but in fact he just dodged them so fast he looked like he was standing still. the same effect would happen with superman's laser eyes. If goku turns supersaiyan4, the heat generated from his aura would melt any freezing superman uses on him. when he turns supersaiyan, hes never been seen to get frozen. only when he is off guard.

even SSJ4 is not immune to the ultimate cutting effect of destructo discs. in cell saga, gohan demonstrated that he could "catch the discs". However, he did not stop them from cutting him, because they never touched him. He took control of the disc's energy and used it for himself. superman hasn't got that type of control of energy. SSJ4 gogeta is just too cruel to put against superman
its like pitting a wolf against a chihuaha.

an entire army shot bombs and missiles at imperfect cell and could scratch him. the same thing would happen to superman because they cant hurt him. but look what happens to cell when fighting a super saiyan? oh he starts to feel the blows then. same with superman's so-called invulnerability. the spectrum of his god-mode strength is only based on the things hes fought. put him against a super being with god-like powers and see how he fares. ]


anyway hands down goku ssj4 would tear superman apart, no matter what form hes in. but these guys are still mortal. JESUS WOULD PWN THEM! (he just needs to think "die" and they will die ^^ goodbye goku and superman!)

i would choose Goku just because he could destroy a planet if he wanted to haha. Remember in the early DBZ saga where Vegeta was with Nappa going to Earth and they stop by the bug planet, and when they leave Vegeta simply blows up the planet...yeah...now imagine his power level then (like 20,000 something) compared to a SSJ4 Goku (which is like 10,000,000+), yea complete udder destruction.

although the only advantage Superman has is his pure heart, because he could bounce away the Spirit Bomb if Goku pulled that one (and thats like Goku's signature move)

Originally Posted by Krawndemon

anyway hands down goku ssj4 would tear superman apart, no matter what form hes in. but these guys are still mortal. JESUS WOULD PWN THEM! (he just needs to think "die" and they will die ^^ goodbye goku and superman!)

...

Are you kidding me? Jesus would lose a match up against dragonball kid goku, and baby superman.

ok first of all broly destroy a galaxy and hes nothing,
second if goku and superman ever met they would never fight each other they prob would join forces, and there pretty much the same person.
!.goku come to earth as a baby in a space pod from a planet that got destroyed , the exact same as superman, there storys are pretty much the same to defend the earth against criminals and invaders, and raditz vegeta, and nappa show up, for superman its zod and his buddies. but in a fight its hard to say, lets see superman has laser vison, but thats not that strong, from wat i saw androids lasor vison is better. and well strength and steel body, supermans be thrown around by villians all the time, and goku useing kryptonite he wouldnt go that low lol. so my conclusion krillon and yamcha could take superman... wat the hell throw in teien too.
but seriously i think vegeta would win, not by power alone, he would wish for eternal life from the dragon then strench out his hand and yell BIG BANG ATACK then it would be over

You also have to talk about the enviroment, and also why they are fighting each other. If both are fighting to kill, then they'd go all out, but if it was a friendly kind of fight, they'd both limit what they do. If the enviroment is say, in a city, both would be hesitant in using moves like laser vision and the spirit bomb. It'll probably be decided by who has the balls to kill civilians, which neither really do,and also by how smart they are. Say if Goku went into his time machine, he'd train for years and be harder to beat. =P


Also, when I used to watch Dragon Ball Z, all I saw in physical fights were extremely fast punches, not any sort of rhythm that most martial arts have.

Originally Posted by dorpis

Also, when I used to watch Dragon Ball Z, all I saw in physical fights were extremely fast punches, not any sort of rhythm that most martial arts have.

That's one area where Goku really has Superman beaten. Even if we were to assume that the two had the same power-level, Goku's conditioning in the martial arts would put him leagues above Superman. Superman is a brawler. He's fast and he's strong, but he doesn't have much training/conditioning. He just does whatever he can do with his abilitites. He's not seasoned like Goku - someone who actually comes from a warrior race of beings, and has been training to fight with his extraordinary power since he was a child.

With all physical strength being equal, Goku is still a superior fighter - and I still say that with the assumtion that their strengths are not equal, and SSJ Goku's strength is greater than Superman's. This makes Goku even deadlier. Not only he is used to fighting characters that are LIKE Superman, but he's used to fighting characters who have Superman's strength (or more) and are conditioned fighters.