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      Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
      The majority (notice I said majority) of Christians are closed minded, brainwashed individuals who were brought up believing thier religion. Thus, its thier entire model of reality. If it was proven wrong, that would cause them to have to rethink all thier beliefs, and change everything they believe.

      They cannot let that happen.

      They dont conciously know all of that, but thats whats going on.

      SO. Heres how an argument would normally go. (The ones I've had, at least..)

      Atheist and Christian argue. Christian gets proven wrong via logic from Atheist. Christian cannot take it, Christian yells at Atheist and throws every insult and name they can think of.

      (Note: I'm not actually an Atheist, I'm not a Christian either, I've got my own beliefs.)
      It's what is just clear to me. But go try to explain that to a christian. It's especially bad with those ones who are arrogant enough to think atheism is just a phase or something.

      Atheism is only seen as a set of beliefs, because atheists have the same views on several topics. But I can assure that the nearly absolute majority got those views independently - instead of just being brainwashed into believing it, as happens with christians. Which is more than enough proof that there atheism is the most logical natural conclusion. Seriously, any half-rational person has to conclude that all mainstream religions are just brainwashing and propaganda. Believe whatever you want - but don't believe in religions.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post

      PSO, eh, GA? Sounds . . . fun.

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      It is only fair that we Atheists get to start capitalizing important words like Evolution and Big Bang when they are not at the beginnings of sentences. Even pronouns that refer to Us need to be capitalized. If English teachers have a problem with the fact that We are doing that as of now, they need to face the fact that This is an Atheist nation! The Declaration of Independence does not mention jesus!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      I love how I'm getting flamed over this, even in senseless banter.

      Oh yeah, I almost forgot to capitalise Love and point out how JESUS CHRIST is the only way to Salvation.

      Amen.
      No offense, but perhaps if you didn't constantly make blatant generalizations about people based on the fact that their belief system differs from your own, especially without any evidence that such generalizations are even true in the slightest, people wouldn't come in and "flame" you...or, as I like to call it, "refute your nonsensical claims". If you think there isn't an atheist in the world who doesn't get frustrated enough with Christians and their "irrational" beliefs to go on message boards and TYPE IN ALL CAPS TO GET THEIR MESSAGES ACROSS, you're sadly mistaken, neighbor.

      Oh, and it's also sort of funny that you make a big deal out of capitalization, and yet you don't even bother to capitalize the word "Christian". Whether or not you agree with Christian beliefs, that's blatantly disrespectful, in my opinion. It'd be like getting your master's degree, only to find out that your honorary plaque has your name in all lower case. It's demeaning and shows that either A) you're pretty much a dick or B) you just suck at the English language.

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      P.S. It's really hard to take you seriously with that Sean Faris signature, Kromz. I really just want to vomit every time I see his sultry glare. It's actually quite disturbing, seeing that looking out of your computer screen at you.
      Amen.

      Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
      The majority (notice I said majority) of Christians are closed minded, brainwashed individuals who were brought up believing thier religion.
      That statement leads me to believe that you don't even have the slightest clue of what brainwashing really is.


      Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
      Thus, its thier entire model of reality. If it was proven wrong, that would cause them to have to rethink all thier beliefs, and change everything they believe.

      They cannot let that happen.

      They dont conciously know all of that, but thats whats going on.
      Really? Well, it seems to me that your entire model of reality revolves around misspelling every other word. If you're going to criticize people's beliefs as being devoid of logic, the least you could do, logically, is use a spell-check.


      Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
      SO. Heres how an argument would normally go. (The ones I've had, at least..)

      Atheist and Christian argue. Christian gets proven wrong via logic from Atheist. Christian cannot take it, Christian yells at Atheist and throws every insult and name they can think of.
      Uh-huh. Yep, it's not like anyone's ever seen an atheist get angry at a Christian/Jew/Buddhist/whatever. Nope, they're all just a bunch of calm Mr. Spocks, driven by logic and devoid of all irrational emotion, I tell ya. Damn decent fellows, those atheists...no, they've never started fights with religious people for holding on to their "wrong" beliefs.

      Here's how an argument would normally go. (The ones I've had, at least.)

      Christian and atheist argue. Atheist tells Christian that his beliefs are stupid. Christian calmly responds with something to the effect of "Well, that's your opinion." Atheist can't believe that Christian just ignored his insult, and so continues to throw every other insult in the English dictionary at him. Christian just smiles. Atheist's head explodes.

      See how ridiculous that sounded? It only goes to show that you can't generalize about people based on personal experience. Scientifically speaking, personal experiences are not considered relevant in the field of logic...yet atheists, who defend "logic" so vehemently, have somehow failed to notice this. Huh. Very queer. Very queer, indeed.
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      Well this is rather silly.

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      Stop this now, please.

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      From now on, this thread shall only be discussing cheesecake.

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      I am a christian and I find this thread offensive.

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      I am offensive and I find this thread Christian.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lëzen View Post
      No offense, but perhaps if you didn't constantly make blatant generalizations about people based on the fact that their belief system differs from your own, especially without any evidence that such generalizations are even true in the slightest, people wouldn't come in and "flame" you...or, as I like to call it, "refute your nonsensical claims". If you think there isn't an atheist in the world who doesn't get frustrated enough with Christians and their "irrational" beliefs to go on message boards and TYPE IN ALL CAPS TO GET THEIR MESSAGES ACROSS, you're sadly mistaken, neighbor.
      Any extinguisher nearby?

      Oh, and it's also sort of funny that you make a big deal out of capitalization, and yet you don't even bother to capitalize the word "Christian". Whether or not you agree with Christian beliefs, that's blatantly disrespectful, in my opinion. It'd be like getting your master's degree, only to find out that your honorary plaque has your name in all lower case. It's demeaning and shows that either A) you're pretty much a dick or B) you just suck at the English language.
      'Christian' should not be capitalised. I do not capitalise 'atheist', why the heck should I capitalise 'christian'? I won't capitalise the name of a faith just to try to make it more special. I demand you use capitalised pronouns and articles when you refer to His Godly Existence, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I want you to use a capital when you call me Spaghettian.

      Amen.

      That statement leads me to believe that you don't even have the slightest clue of what brainwashing really is.
      I actually think that'd be you. You wouldn't be christian if you weren't educated into it.


      Really? Well, it seems to me that your entire model of reality revolves around misspelling every other word. If you're going to criticize people's beliefs as being devoid of logic, the least you could do, logically, is use a spell-check.
      Don't try to refute anything over typos. This is the Internet, ffs. If you want spell-checked text, go read the Bible - it'll probably knock some sense into you. It's incredibly rare to find a single christian that has actually opened the Bible and read it like a book. I challenge you to.

      Uh-huh. Yep, it's not like anyone's ever seen an atheist get angry at a Christian/Jew/Buddhist/whatever. Nope, they're all just a bunch of calm Mr. Spocks, driven by logic and devoid of all irrational emotion, I tell ya. Damn decent fellows, those atheists...no, they've never started fights with religious people for holding on to their "wrong" beliefs.
      Lol. I never said emotion is bad. I just never see atheists screaming like children.

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      I am a christian and I find this thread offensive.
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      I am offensive and I find this thread Christian.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lëzen View Post

      That statement leads me to believe that you don't even have the slightest clue of what brainwashing really is.



      Really? Well, it seems to me that your entire model of reality revolves around misspelling every other word. If you're going to criticize people's beliefs as being devoid of logic, the least you could do, logically, is use a spell-check.

      I do know what brainwashing is. In this case, its you being brought up that its true, therefore its ingrained into your mind, so much that you cannot let it go no matter what logic says, even if youre proven wrong.

      To your second point, on my spelling. Dont change the subject. You can easily read what I'm trying to say, as can anybody who has passed the first grade. A few typo's, deal with it and get to the topic at hand.
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      Moved to R/S to contain the flames...
      Edit: Oh, wait, I can't do that.
      Last edited by tnemrot; 05-28-2009 at 04:18 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by no-name View Post
      Ah, but this is off-topic, and even moreso senseless banter.

      You have 0 posts. Heh.





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      That hat is WIN.
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      Saying quantum physics explains cognitive processes is just like saying geology explains jurisprudence.

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      I mean, people, just look at the comments in this video I found in another thread:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0m3s9h_z0A

      No telling me I'm wrong.
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      Saying quantum physics explains cognitive processes is just like saying geology explains jurisprudence.

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      Yeah, since youtube commenters are a prime example of the best of each demographic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      Why do christians, in each and every discussion about belief, write mostly in capitals, and add lots of exclamation marks? It feels like those children who cover their ears and scream "I'M NOT LISTENING!!" just to try to silence the adult.



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      The only reason this is in senseless banter is because I don't wanna get flamed by a bunch of believers over it. I actually do mean what I say.
      I do it for the lulz and stereotypes.
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      Komorh, make a new thread in the R/S forum. I'm not making a long post if it doenst count towards my POST COUNT!

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      Quote Originally Posted by tnemrot View Post
      Yeah, since youtube commenters are a prime example of the best of each demographic.
      My point wasn't to make any demographic statement. It's just a fact I observed. A fact is observed, then come hypotheses, then comes experimentation, then comes thesis. The beauty of the scientific method. I observed a fact and I asked a question in this thread, in order to come up with more hypotheses. I never made a thesis - I never said I believe this is because religious people are more hard-headed, stupid, or ignorant than atheists.

      Now stop criticising my methods, if you don't know them at all.


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      I don't really care about discussing. There's not much I would gain from it then I've already done. I usually tend to like discussing with diverging opinions, to know their point of views and leave no flaw in my arguments. But lately I think my grasp is good. As I said above, this thread is not about a hypothesis I made up, it's about a fact I observed. I could say this is because religious people are more hard-headed or less intelligent (which, before you flame me, is a statistic fact), but I didn't.

      Finally, my fire-resistant armour just broke, and I wouldn't want to get incinerated in R/S, even though that'd count as martyrdom.

      PS: if you actually agree with me, then ignore the above.

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      Quote Originally Posted by grasshoppa View Post
      Komorh, make a new thread in the R/S forum. I'm not making a long post if it doenst count towards my POST COUNT!
      lol
      Things are not as they seem

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      You know, thinking about it, SB discussions are way better than ED ones. Much more light-headed, and people who post don't have post count in mind. I'm all up for discussing serious stuff in SB.
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      Saying quantum physics explains cognitive processes is just like saying geology explains jurisprudence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post

      Be with the Holy Peace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
      Maybe you would get less flames if you had a little respect. Blatantly mocking someones faith and those who follow it doesn't improve your argument. I believe it's called ad hominem.

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