Thread: Meditation

Originally Posted by born_2_kill

Its really sad that people mix boobs with Meditation and concentration.
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I Preffer you to read it carefully so you wont mix this exercice with boobs or anything related to that. And the one who is being childish is the person who posts boobs in the wrong place.

Yes, my liege.

Lightheartedness, even in the most serious of contexts, is how some people feel most comfortable. Please don't take it so personally I practice meditation seriously as well, so I prefer you understand that there is as much room for playfulness as seriousness here - but it's not intended to demean your knowledge in any way.

And, your pictures do work well to help me concentrate, if knowing that makes you feel better

so I prefer you understand that there is as much room for playfulness as seriousness here

You expect playfulness from a guy who calls himself "Born_2_Kill"? Now THAT'S funny!

Seriously, thanks for the link - more interesting when the whole thing is put into context. Question, I remember a book that came out years ago which also talked about the "auras" - Something like "The Clendestine Prophecy", maybe? That the same thing or is someone ripping off ideas from someone else?

For those of you who think that sitting and clearing your mind is too boring and dull, you can have some wicked awesome day dreams. In school when I have free time, I'll meditate and drift into a vivid day dream. You can get lost up there.

Some of you will not belive this but I bet Born_To_Kill is very aware of this. Meditation can lead to almost magical powers. Check out 'Kundalini Yoga' or 'The Serpant Power' on google and you should pull up volumes on magic that comes from meditation. Here is a basic idea,,, chakras, chi, ki, prana, and such familiar terms are refering to subtle energy that makes up our whole universe. You can learn to master your inner energies through meditation. Some basic skills you may gain 1) unbelievable ability to draw stored memories from parts of your brain while testing. 2) things suddenly going your way due to your energy changing the world even when you do not know what needs changed,,,, and other things worth checking out. You can become somewhat psycic, and become a stronger person in every way. Can you levitate? I doubt it. Most of the powers gained will just appear as you being very wise and lucky.
Ok, a simple meditation to get you started. Focus on your small toe (either) get to were you can actually feel it ,move step by step up the body, really focusing on just one point. This starts training you to feel energy move through you. Then imagine water or warm milk dripping down your arm until it falls from your finger tips..... That is a super basic start but it can be a life long growing thing. Look up any of the words -kundalini, serpant power, chi, or prana on google and good luck

Some basic skills you may gain 1) unbelievable ability to draw stored memories from parts of your brain while testing. 2) things suddenly going your way due to your energy changing the world even when you do not know what needs changed,,,, and other things worth checking out. You can become somewhat psycic, and become a stronger person in every way.

Sivason - what you suggest there fits right into the law of attraction and quantum physics philosophy. Funny how all this stuff put together really starts to fit nicely into the "big picture".

Focus on your small toe (either) get to were you can actually feel it ,move step by step up the body, really focusing on just one point. This starts training you to feel energy move through you. Then imagine water or warm milk dripping down your arm until it falls from your finger tips.....

This sounds a lot like the 61-point relaxation technique. I built a Flash animation about it. I simplified the steps so that it really doesn't seem like 61 completely different points. You can check it out here.

Originally Posted by sivason

Some of you will not belive this but I bet Born_To_Kill is very aware of this. Meditation can lead to almost magical powers. Check out 'Kundalini Yoga' or 'The Serpant Power' on google and you should pull up volumes on magic that comes from meditation. Here is a basic idea,,, chakras, chi, ki, prana, and such familiar terms are refering to subtle energy that makes up our whole universe. You can learn to master your inner energies through meditation. Some basic skills you may gain 1) unbelievable ability to draw stored memories from parts of your brain while testing. 2) things suddenly going your way due to your energy changing the world even when you do not know what needs changed,,,, and other things worth checking out. You can become somewhat psycic, and become a stronger person in every way. Can you levitate? I doubt it. Most of the powers gained will just appear as you being very wise and lucky.
Ok, a simple meditation to get you started. Focus on your small toe (either) get to were you can actually feel it ,move step by step up the body, really focusing on just one point. This starts training you to feel energy move through you. Then imagine water or warm milk dripping down your arm until it falls from your finger tips..... That is a super basic start but it can be a life long growing thing. Look up any of the words -kundalini, serpant power, chi, or prana on google and good luck

Once someone reaches that level, I'm sure he/she wouldn't bother to proof its existence. Its something we gain trough meditation. Once in that level the user seeks more power by supressings his chakra into the limits beyond the 7 chakras.
Me my self i practice the 3rd eye technique trough meditation and concentration. I'm able to see anyones auras but i cannot read them yet.

I can see my own aura. Well...sometimes it's black, sometimes it's white. Sometimes i really gotta focus, other times i don't even have to bother...it's weird seeing a shadowy thing around you.....

Originally Posted by Forsaken Exposition

For those of you who think that sitting and clearing your mind is too boring and dull, you can have some wicked awesome day dreams. In school when I have free time, I'll meditate and drift into a vivid day dream. You can get lost up there.

Grade 6 and 7 i always dozed off into daydreams of flying, flying, and more flying (only flying).

Originally Posted by Infraredkelp

Also, I read some accounts of people levitating off the ground while meditating. I think that would be pretty sick to do

Haha

The type of meditation that I studied and that had an enormous positive effect on my life is vipassana meditation as taught by S.N. Goenka ( http://www.dhamma.org/ ).
It's a Buddhist technique taught in a ten days retreat course.
At the first stage of the course you learn to improve your concentration, and at the second you begin a process of purifying the mind.
The technique helps both during the course, so that at the end of the course you are at peace, and also in helping you cope with the ups and downs of life in a positive way, and helping you to become more peaceful and happy.

Yeah Vipassama is really effective and easy for westerners. They have a vajrayana temple in my area so I use those techniques as well as tantric techniques I read about.

Thanks for the recommendation and link, dodo. I've actually been interested in taking some sort of class for meditation, but the only place I could think of even asking is a martial arts gym - and I doubt they would have a night were all they did was meditation. I did see a place that taught yoga and pilates. Is it possible they also do meditation?

The closest 10 course to me would be in Chicago - I'd have to take vacation time to attend, though.

Anyone here do Silva Mind Control? I remember seeing a post where someone mentioned it and then I looked it up and got a book about it and its really interesting. One thing really interesting is how they have the names and ages of people then they have to go to their "level" (alpha brain level, like meditation) and they are able to accurately diagnose what medical conditions the person has. I havn't tried it too much but it basically seems like meditating and then when relaxed, being able to recall memories better like to find lost items, or to be smarter and psychic. They also use the three fingers together (thumb and first two fingers of either hand) to get back to a relaxed mind level such as I have heard people on here talk about using certain phrases in their mind. The book I have is called "The Silva Mind Control Method" by Jose Silva and Philip Miele. BTW great topic.

Originally Posted by DoomedOne

Yeah Vipassama is really effective and easy for westerners. They have a vajrayana temple in my area so I use those techniques as well as tantric techniques I read about.

Alas, Vipassana is not easy. At least the Vipassana that I studied. It's very difficult for beginners, but well worth the effort.

Originally Posted by dodobird

The type of meditation that I studied and that had an enormous positive effect on my life is vipassana meditation as taught by S.N. Goenka ( http://www.dhamma.org/ ).
It's a Buddhist technique taught in a ten days retreat course.
At the first stage of the course you learn to improve your concentration, and at the second you begin a process of purifying the mind.
The technique helps both during the course, so that at the end of the course you are at peace, and also in helping you cope with the ups and downs of life in a positive way, and helping you to become more peaceful and happy.

I picked up a book on vipassana called "Mindfulness in Plain English" by Bhante H. Gunaratana and just started reading it. This techniques sounds wonderful but hard work...isn't that true with most worthwhile things? Peace and coping skills are what I need.

Meditating on a daily basis is going to be a challenge, though...

Mindfulness in plain english is actually available free online:
http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma4/mpe.html
Obviously a better idea to own the book though, might save your eyesight

dodo, no form of Buddhism is necessarily easy, what I meant was that it's easier for Westerners. This is just what I've heard, Vajrayana is the most accessible to me, so for me personally, that's easiest.

wat are u suppose to feel or see when meditaitng? how do u know if ur doing it right?

Originally Posted by DoomedOne

dodo, no form of Buddhism is necessarily easy, what I meant was that it's easier for Westerners. This is just what I've heard, Vajrayana is the most accessible to me, so for me personally, that's easiest.

I agree with you it's easy for westerners to accept this technique, as it does not rely on mystical things, devotion to gods or icons etc. You can feel at home with it whether you are religious or atheist.

Originally Posted by tekkendreams

wat are u suppose to feel or see when meditaitng? how do u know if ur doing it right?

That depends on the meditation technique that you use. There are many kinds and they are very different. But the most common ground I think is that - at least during the first stage of the meditation - you are supposed to focus your mind on some object, and become concentrated.

The object could be your breath, or physical sensations, or a word that you repeat to your self, or an image that you imagine, or it could be anything really.
In some techniques you are supposed to think as little as possible and observe the object, while in other techniques you are supposed to think about something specific.

But to give you an idea I will answer your question by talking about the technique that I studied, Vipassana as taught by S.N.Goenka. There are 3 techniques that I studied involved in this type of Vipassana, and the first one Anapana is supposed mostly to train you to concentrate in preparation of the second technique which is called Vipassana.

In Anapana you sit with your eyes closed, and you are supposed to observe your breath, as it passes in and out of your nose, and afterwards you advance to observing subtle sensations below your nose.
You are not supposed to think, so every time a though appears you need to try to let go of it and go back to observing the breath. You should not regulate your breath but breath normally.
If you are successful you will observe your breath more of the time, and think less. In an ideal session you will not miss even one breath, because you observed them continuously.
While you are observing, you should accept whatever happens: If you keep losing the awareness and start thinking, you should not feel frustrated or angry, but accept the reality and go back to observing. Likewise you should not crave for success in observing each breath, but instead accept the level of concentration that you are in, and keep on working to try to improve it.
When you are doing this all kinds of things may happen: You may feel surges of emotions, or a storm of thoughts, or very strong or subtle physical sensations, or a feeling of ecstasy, or visual hallucinations, or nothing special at all: It does not matter what these experiences are, because the key in Anapana is to focus on the breath without letting them distract you.
But if you do happen to observe them, you should accept those feelings without fighting them, or rejecting them or craving for them.

Tekkendreams,,,, When I do energy type meditations I actually feel energy move around me and through me and can control this. I can be very very entertained by this. Hours of fun inside your head, as good as lucid dreaming for the thrill seeker. In simple terms... You may feel as if you are moving, like a warm liquid is pour over you ar out of you, maybe you will see colorful things some what like a LSD trip but far more controlled and less disturbing. You can play all sorts of games with your mind. Try just watching the back of your eye lids in the dark. See little bits of color,,, play with this you will see more. Anyways it can feel like all sorts of things and there are so many styles as someone just posted. If you do any mind calming internal work you can not go wrong.