Thread: Jeff777's Free-falling WILD technique!

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Is your success rate acheived with or without wbtb?

For awhile, I was training at just entering sleep paralysis whenever I wanted to enter it. I felt getting training myself to get to the mind awake, body asleep state was paramount for WILD'ing, so I concentrated my efforts on that for some time.

I experienced many WILD's using this without WBTB, but the quality of the LD's was fair at best. When I felt I had gotten to the point of being able to induce sleep paralysis pretty well, I started incorporating WBTB's into my routine to take advantage of my lengthier REM periods (better WILD's).

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

My alarm didn't wake me up last night. Try again tonight!

How'd you do?

i have used this tech, but i don't know if this is to induce sp or induce a wild.

Originally Posted by fgopl

i have used this tech, but i don't know if this is to induce sp or induce a wild.

This technique is to induce sp, which is used to induce a WILD.

Originally Posted by fgopl

i have used this tech, but i don't know if this is to induce sp or induce a wild.

You'll find very few techniques for WILD that don't involve SP and you'll find none for inducing SP alone.

Fuck yes.

after the body is paralyzed, is there something in particular that has to be done to continue of does stuff just proceed on their own? (sorry if its silly)

I don't understadn what he means about an 'illogical thought', is it just a thought or image that can't happen in reality? for example flying or something I don't quite understand. If someone can post what it actually is.

Originally Posted by xxdanxx

I don't understadn what he means about an 'illogical thought', is it just a thought or image that can't happen in reality? for example flying or something I don't quite understand. If someone can post what it actually is.

Incoherent and dreamlike, to a certain degree everyone experiences some scrambled thoughts and images upon sleep onset whether they remember them or not. If you haven't experienced this then next time you fall asleep try to be more aware of the hypnagogic state.
I find that imagining people I know saying random stuff for a few minutes brings on illogical thinking and the hypnagogic state quite nicely

Originally Posted by xxdanxx

I don't understadn what he means about an 'illogical thought'

Something that doesn't make logical sense - such as phasing through walls etc. As you move closer and closer to the transition between consciousness and dreaming, the logic centre of your brain begins to shut down.

If you wake up during the early morning, how long does it personally take for you to get illogical thoughts.

Originally Posted by xxdanxx

If you wake up during the early morning, how long does it personally take for you to get illogical thoughts.

I'm certainly not an expert, but I do believe that when you are WILDing, you don't really have a sense of time, and if you do you will probably not be successful as you are too aware.

i am sorry, i think someone might asked this question already, but i need to know what do you mean by

noticing illogical images and patterns

? is it like hypnagogia images & patterns? or stronger? or what?

every time i try to WILD I either fall asleep (unconsciously) right after I start having hallucinations or i never fall asleep after 2 hours of trying... can someone help me figure this out?!?!