What is this... Hypnagogic hallucinations? I'm puzzled.

**Shan** · 07-14-2011 05:41 PM

Hello,

I am not quite sure if this is posted in the right section. If not, feel free to move it.

Anyways... I've attempted a few WILDs before but i always get stuck at one particular moment, which leads me into the question of this thread.

I lay down in a comfortable position (etc... etc... etc...)
When I'm really relaxed (trying a WILD) i get the sensation that with each inhalation of air i get pulled back in a huge swing, like a viking boat lol. And with each exhalation i get gently pushed forward (released by that "one" who pulls me up, perhaps). It feels really relaxing and i get into a sort of rythm that accompanies my breathing and my counting of my breaths. I also start visualising the boat/cocoon I am lying in.

All of the sudden i end up in a kayak. I paddle and a few of my friends are near me, each in their own little kayak. I dodge waves and cliffs when i jolt into the very relaxed state of being swinged by each breath... (the kayak scenario is often very blurry... It's more like a "kayaking-feeling" if you know what i mean... However i see things and hear things). Is this a veery early, blurry phase/section of a dream? Or is this hypnagogic halucinations? I really have no idea what to do as i enter these scenes several times and all of the sudden I'm gone. Asleep. When i wake up i don't remember any dream about a sea or a kayak. I've hade other dreams during the night though.

NOTE: The kayak scenario was just one of several scenarios. I've had similar experiences but with different scenes, for example i play a computer game and realize im still just lying in my bed. It seems like these sequences are reflections of what ive done during the day. (If i played alot of computer games during the day i get "computer-game-sequences". If I've been skiing during the day i get "ski-sequences".

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this

**Meakel** · 07-14-2011 06:18 PM

I get that 'swaying' feeling too. What helps is to really focus that movement into a kind of downwards fashion. It kind of emulates this heaviness which I've seen to really speed up the WILDing process.

As for the main question at hand, I could consider that the early part of the dream. The line being that once a sense other than sight enters the dream state, I consider it a dream rather than an HI.

**Shan** · 07-14-2011 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Meakel

I get that 'swaying' feeling too. What helps is to really focus that movement into a kind of downwards fashion. It kind of emulates this heaviness which I've seen to really speed up the WILDing process.

Do you mean to imagine that your body gets, för example, pulled into the matress?

**Shan** · 07-14-2011 06:47 PM

Oh and Meakel, do you suggest to just go with the dream (or those sequences i'm experiencing)? Cuse often once i notice that this isn't happening it all shatters. It feels like if i would follow these sequences i would end up having a non-lucud dream, for i don't feel lucid during the sequences.

**Meakel** · 07-14-2011 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Shan

Do you mean to imagine that your body gets, för example, pulled into the matress?

Pretty much. It really helps the start of sleep paralysis.

Yup, these are often the beginnings of lucid dreams. Sometimes it can be hard to really let go otherwise it's just a dream without lucidity haha.

**Shan** · 07-14-2011 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Meakel

Pretty much. It really helps the start of sleep paralysis.

Yup, these are often the beginnings of lucid dreams. Sometimes it can be hard to really let go otherwise it's just a dream without lucidity haha.

You mean if i don't let go it will become a dream without lucidity? And if i let go i will prolly have an LD? I don't quite follow... What do you mean? :p

**Meakel** · 07-14-2011 08:21 PM

Haha, what I mean is that it's sometime's difficult to find that balance. If you try to hard to become lucid, the dream shatters like you said. If you let yourself go too much, you lose the sense of lucidity.

**Shan** · 07-14-2011 10:47 PM

Ah i get it

tonight i will attempt the WILD without prior sleep and i will take into account the answers i've got here... I hope i'll finally be able to make it.

Great guide btw! I became so dissapointed when i read all these WTBT WILD guides.. No sleep before WILD is the real deal man, keep up the great work! I hope i'll be able to master the technique hehe

**Meakel** · 07-15-2011 12:14 AM

Oh well thank you! But I really hope you took the warnings to heart haha, the method will generally result in less stable dreams, be careful not to lose too much sleep doing it