Thread: Awake All Night Experiment - Official Method and Results

Originally Posted by 12padams

This actually works best for me since I can actually remain still and awake when going to bed... Sadly I suffer a little insomnia...

I can't do wake back to bed at 4am with this experiment since last time I tried that I lay awake for 3 hours straight and it was hell... The only way I actually consciously enter sleep is when I do it before bed at the time most people zonk out like you say. This experiment has caused close lucidity for me especially on the 2nd one however my shock of the pre obe rushing noises made me flinch and stuff up my attempt. Sadly I no longer have time to do this experiment as I now go to college but it at least produced some fun results while it lasted as you can see...

The idea here is to see what happens when you try out this experiment. A wild is a possible side effect however I wanna see if people get similar results to me. If you find it difficult performing this experiment before bed then do it at 4am after some sleep... Main idea is to chose the best time for you. Post your results here and good luck

I think you've picked up some misconceptions (possibly from Lucidology?), but you seem to think that WILDing absolutely involve hours of lying awake in bed. I recommend you check out this tutorial by Mzzkc, as he says, with WBTB there's no need for a WILD to take longer than 15 minutes to enter a dream and in my experience of the WILDs I've had so far I've found that to be true. In fact I would say with practice you could WBTB and WILD every night without very noticeable effect in terms of sleep deprivation, as long as you went to bed early enough.

Keep in mind that any strain (open mouth or swallowing) tells your body to stay awake... You want it to fall asleep while keeping your mind awake.

Hm, no. Do you go to sleep every night without swallowing? Also, keeping your jaw closed requires muscle tension. Your body doesn't have anything to do with deciding when you fall asleep, sleep is a psychological process, you don't need bodily relaxation per se because you only really mental relaxation to fall asleep (hence why it's possible to successfully sleep in the most uncompromising positions). Swallowing has nothing to do with sleep (unless of course you mentally fixate on it enough for it to prevent mental relaxation). Don't do anything when you WILD that you wouldn't do when falling asleep normally.

This is why lucidology is such an awful series -_-...

I recommend you check out this tutorial by Mzzkc, as he says, with WBTB there's no need for a WILD to take longer than 15 minutes to enter a dream and in my experience of the WILDs I've had so far I've found that to be true.

Wow thanks for the advice... Now I got 2 new chapters planned for my book. Trying out this wild method you have shown me for a few weeks and that singularity experience app. I just hope this works for me because naturally I am good at dild however I no longer have time to sit around for 2 hours a day (i used to have ultra good dream recall) writing my dreams due to college. Hopefully this wild you have shown me will work within 30 minutes.

This is why lucidology is such an awful series -_-...

I only really liked it because out of everything I have tried in my book it worked on the first attempt and 3rd attempt. After that I got insomnia however and had the stop using it.

If you never get to sleep that's no problem... With that attitude your on your way to some interesting results!

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Without this attitude I got less results... If your worried about no sleep then you will not have a relaxed enough mind to fall asleep.

Basically this is just attempting WILD when going to bed at night...which is the worst possible time to attempt a WILD. No offense, but I would never recommend this technique to anyone. I'm glad that it has worked for you though.

Yes I am completely aware of this but it's just the best way possible for me in my current life situation. You think this would be effective after 3 hours of sleep? Also I mainly posted this for reference to demonstrate the effects of watching your body falling asleep which rarely but may possibly result in a wild.

Originally Posted by 12padams

You think this would be effective after 3 hours of sleep?

Sure, it would be more effective at night after any length of sleep longer than 90 minutes, which is around the time you'll be entering your first REM period of the night. At 3 hours you'll be hitting your second REM period, which is longer than the first, and even better timing. A lot of people like to WILD after several hours of sleep, when REM is longest, and most vivid, but I prefer to WBTB after about 3 hours so that if I do become lucid, I will typically spend the rest of the night lucid. Which can be a good hour or more worth of LDing. When I try to LD in the early morning hours after several hours of sleep, it is easy, yes, but I also feel like my body wants to wake up more and I am unable to spend hours in lucid dreams because I just don't have that much REM left. It's a personal preference, and you just gotta find what works best for you through trial and error.