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      Wild <=> Ap

      Well last night was a breakthrough for me regarding WILD/AP. Because I manage to test the real time vs experienced time by chance.

      I went to bed at around 1 am. Set my alarm to 05.30 am. I had my sleep mask on. Woke up when I heard the alarm and didn't move. (I've been trying CrazyInSane's method for the past 4 WILDs) At the same time I was thinking about the last dream I remembered and waiting for SP and vibrations to kick in. Normally they happen in like 30-40 seconds. But they didn't. 2-3 minutes passed. Just as I was thinking it won't happen, I felt the SP and the strong vibrations, tried to move my whole body, couldn't do it. Then I felt my phantom arm moving, with the help of it I managed to roll out of my body.

      I tried to stand up by touching furniture around me. My vision was off. It came slowly, when I could see everything in detail, I decided to stay in a limited area and observe, see what happens. So I walk to the door, it was closed like it supposed to be. I didn't want to open it by using the usual way; instead I touched it and tried to pass through. I managed to do that. (Normally it is very easy to achieve as you all know, but there was a difference. Everything was so solid like in waking life. I can feel every surface, pattern). I was still observing and trying to stay focused. I walk to the other room in which my uncle was sleeping. I walked beside him and touched his face, see what happens. Like the previous feel, I could feel his face, I mean the real texture. Then I walked to the balcony, observe the outside for a few seconds, and walked back to my room door. At that moment, I just repeated to myself "As soon as I open this door, I will find myself in my friend's room". I opened the door, and woke up.

      Just as I decided to go back to sleep, I removed my sleep mask and looked at the time. It was 05.35 am. That was really cool, because after I woke up at 5.00 am, SP kicked in after 2-3 minutes. I reanimated the experience after I woke up in the morning by keeping time. It was 2 minutes long. Now I pretty sure that was a type of astral plane looking exactly same as ours.

      Now there are lots of stuff I would like to try on my future experiments. Now I am sure, as I said before, that all my 26 WILDs happened in different astral planes. Because they were not like any LD or non-LD I've had.

      Questions for you:

      1) What can I do to preventing waking up unintentionally?
      2) Do you think I was on the same plane? (I guess I can test it later)
      3) On my previous WILDs/APs, everything was quite the same, but not as precise as this one. But as soon as I leave the familiar place, the surroundings changes drastically. Last night I chose not to go outside or my time was not enough. My question is why does it change like that?
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      Pretty awesome experience, when we experience lucid dreams that seem so phenomenally tangible, so clear that it seems it must be really happening, it's tempting to theorise about other planes but honestly I think that our brains are just amazing at constructing mental models of the real world so that they seem concrete, ultimately we move in mental space.

      That said it's a romantic notion to think that we travel on alternate dimensions, I would quite like it to be true

      Quite a bit of time seemed to have elapsed with very little action going on in the dream. :/

      As for unintentional awakening, I find it happens sometimes when I move into a dark place, alternatively it may have been as a result of you trying to actively control the dream without first stabilising.
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      That is I think I disagree

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      Yeah, you're right about our brain's capability. But you know, I believe in other planes, dimensions or whatever they are and I think there are too many.

      The reason I believe them is that the dreams happens within our consciousness. But when I experience such things, I know I am somehow out of it. It is a tricky thing I give you that. Well the thing is you believe it was a trick created by our brain, I believe it's not I've had thousands of LDs, that's why I am persistent on classing them and WILDs/APs according to what I really experience.

      Yeah but I don't even start to move without stabilizing it That's why I couldn't find an answer.
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