Thread: Mancon's Simple Visualization WILD Technique

First of all, thanks for the great guide Mancon!

A couple of weeks ago, I figured out to WILD/DEILD, but then I had no LDs for 3 weeks because I had no free time and less sleep than usual. Now when I try WILD/DEILD I success about 30% of the time (I used to success like 80% of the time...). I took advantage of the time change to wake up an hour earlier, I am also used to wake up motionless and eyes closed, it's a great recipe for WILD/DEILD! As I have excellent visualization skills and my other way of doing WILD is broken, I am going to go with this method.

I tried it this morning but I wasn't able to fall asleep... I visualized seeing the scene, an awesome modern chalet in the alps, featuring floor to ceiling, frameless windows and dark wood floors. The view was amazing. I also visualized touching the surface of the wooden floor and feeling the texture. I even visualized the smell of the dark wood. I think I was close, but for some reason I wasn't able to fall asleep, I was not even thinking about my physical body or falling asleep. I did this for at least half an hour and I know sometimes you have to wait a bit for REM, but the longest time it ever took me was like 15 mins, and in theory REM periods are longer in the morning. Do you have any advice for me?

I've often wondered and this may seem odd. But how do people overlap there visualization with the hypnagogia behind the eyes. I can do one of two things it seems, I can almost paint the visualization of something over the hypnagogia (as if the hypnagogic imagery already formed it) or create an daydreamed image that is seperate.

It's an extremely difficult concept to describe, I guess the best way to think about it is if I casually think up an image right now in my head. When I do this traditionally the image is instantaneously in my head, of course it's vague but I get the general idea of what I'm imagining e.g a green field or room. However I could also briefly close my eyes and beginning adding the details over the black space behind my eyes, like I'm painting the objects into a canvas that is made up of my hypnagogic imagery. Hopefully that clarifies what I'm referring to. I just need to know what is more effective and what technique people here use.

Thanks Mancon, that's a great tutorial I've always been a day-dreamer and all I ever do before I go to sleep at night is daydream and visualise, not with any intention of LD'ing, just because it's what I like to do. I'm gonna try this out properly tonight after a few hours sleep. I'm hoping it will be a better technique for me as well, because I'll be able to pick a nice place to visualise, and won't be too creeped out.

Thank you!!
Lula x

Wow, really guys, thanks . Last night I had probably my first successful attempt at a lucid dream. I woke up after four and a half hours of deep sleep to take a leak, then try this method. So I laid there in bed, took a few breaths, then closed my eyes attempting to do this V-WILD. I started counting up to 5 over and over again (as suggested by one of the users here, "mcwilliams?" ) once i started to notice that i was on the brink of sleep due to me forgetting to count. I immediately started doing the visualizations and seconds later the whole dream scene manifested around me!!! It was so exilerating, i remained in the dream world for 10 seconds, before it destabilized (guess I got too excited xD ) Anyways thank you Mancon and everyone else. I will use this method from here on out O(∩_∩)O

Originally Posted by eddgeric00

Wow, really guys, thanks . Last night I had probably my first successful attempt at a lucid dream. I woke up after four and a half hours of deep sleep to take a leak, then try this method. So I laid there in bed, took a few breaths, then closed my eyes attempting to do this V-WILD. I started counting up to 5 over and over again (as suggested by one of the users here, "mcwilliams?" ) once i started to notice that i was on the brink of sleep due to me forgetting to count. I immediately started doing the visualizations and seconds later the whole dream scene manifested around me!!! It was so exilerating, i remained in the dream world for 10 seconds, before it destabilized (guess I got too excited xD ) Anyways thank you Mancon and everyone else. I will use this method from here on out O(∩_∩)O

I meant mcwillis *

My problem with visualization is sleep posture.

I think I can visualize very well but only if I lay on my back.

The problem is that I cant sleep this way because I don't breath well. I normally sleep on my side, but in this position its weird to visualize because I have to imagine the landscape rotated 90 degrees so its aligned with my point of view, and it doesnt feel comfortable.

Any help with this? do you visualize while laying on your side?