Am I WILD'ing??

[Blaed]

Hi everyone, i am still a newbie to LD'ing I have had one LD since i started (about the beginning of this year) and it was short lived due to the excitement and me waking up So i have been slacking the past few weeks, writing less in my DJ and not putting any effort it but i have come to change that around Now, i never tried WILD or had the intention to do so but it seems i may have last night. So there i was, about to sleep and listening to some ISOCHRONIC tones also. I start to go into pretty extreme thought on how i want my dream to be and igot carried away by the ISO tone and my imagination before i knew it i told myself to wake up or get up and when i did it seemed i was in a dream When i got up reality felt somewhat like a dream, my senses were off, my mind was doing a series of weird throbbing and such. I 100% recall my 'dream'or what i thought it was and it didnt feel as... unreal as a dream would be, also i dont believe it was a WILD because i have never experienced sleep paralysis and that was not the case last night, however i do recall my eyes moving on their own behind my eyelids during the time period please help, i dont knw what it was :3 thank you in advance!

[Hukif]

Pfft you don't need SP in order to WILD so maybe you were about to have a natural WILD but got out before you were there?

[Chewnie91]

I use WILD as my primary induction technique. I have had very similar experiences to what you are describing. You were unfortunately not in a WILD, instead, as the post above me has said, you were on the verge of a WILD. It was probably a mix of the music you were listening to and your brain being seconds from entering a dream that caused you to become disoriented upon waking up. Next time do a reality check before you just wake up and no, you don't need to be in SP for a WILD to occur. Most of mine occur before SP sets in.

[Erii]

Moved to WILD

[Blaed]

soo, u guys are saying that if i stayed with it a little longer i would of entered a WILD? and what are the comparisons between a DILD AND WILD? Like, a DILD feels MUCH more unreal while a WILD may seem less unreal but still a dream? thank you!

[Hukif]

First thing, yup. The WILD vs DILD depends on the person completely. My WILDs are horrible in quality/vividity/lenght/control compared to my DILDs. I can easily have a 30mins+ DILD, but WILD won't last even half the time, with limited control and unreal as you put it, while DILD feels as real as waking to me. For other people this is the opposite and WILD > DILD for them, so yeah it depends on you.

[Blaed]

thanks Hukif! one more question... If i WILD at the time i usually go to bed, would it transform into a DILD or does a WILD need to be a short period of 'sleeping' so i usually go to bed at 10:30 PM or around that and wake up at 5 AM, so you can say i get 7 hours of sleep, now can i WILD at 10:30 and still wake up at 5 or does it turn into a DILD? also during that period of WILD'ing does that mean (if i can control it) i can wild for 7 hours? O.o does WILD even count as sleeping? lol..... sorry if its confusing >.< ***UPDATE***- so, i went surfing on the internet (this site to be precise :3) and found a WILD technique that i coincidentally used, which is Mancon's Simple Visualization WILD Technique That WILD technique is exactly what i used on my first post where i talked about it... one more thing, that guide says after you have visualized the dreamscape enough your supposed to reality check That night i tried to WILD i had a feeling almost like an instinct to RC but i didnt because i thought i would RC in real life not the dream, maybe if i RC'd when i had the instinct i would of had it! that may be the case

[Hukif]

WILD seems to be WAY harder for most people when first going to sleep. So it would be a WILD, but unlikely and you will lose a lot of sleep maybe <.< If you try WILD at 10:30, chances are you won't get it down for a few hours, so waking at 5 would be tiring? And you can have a WILD then wake up and have a DILD, no reason why it will only be one. And depends, think some people can go straight with a single dream through the whole night, but the normal is going in cycles, ie: first lucid you have will be shorter than last (assuming you get lucid in all your dreams) And yup, WILD counts as sleeping lol No confusing, nop.

[Blaed]

so it is possible to say that WILD'ing is like a nap while DILD is a longer full night dream

[Hukif]

Again that depends. Think there is someone on LD4ALL who will go to sleep and have a several-hours long lucid, so that DILD would be like a full night one. But for me, a DILD goes in cycles and would be like a nap. Not sure how that would work for you.

[Blaed]

o ok so let me rephrase that... I refer a DILD as something I do when I plan on sleeping throughout the whole night while WILD I'll do for a short time

[Hukif]

AH I see! So then yeah, WILD would be nap-like and DILD full-night like.

[Blaed]

sorry for the later reply soo the past 2 nights ive been trying what i did above, but a the same time trying to extend it so far i have positive results but they are confusing and misleading. First off, my WILD's seem to FEEL like a DEEP imagination time and it feels im NOT dreaming until i wake up or open my eyes. Heres how it goes i start to imagine something and a dream plot, as i progress through it i can hear things going on in REAL life such as, the water running when someone in my house is taking a shower orrr the tv on in the next room at that point it feels im just deeply in imagination mode because of everything else going on in RL However, the WILD's i had were both about 30 minutes long, one of them just me imagining it through the time period and feeling it go by faster then it sounds and the other where i actually drifted into sleep and woke back up 30 min. later the problems are is that the majority of my WILD's or what i think are WILD's do not engage me into SP therefore me not 100% engaging the dream and having the ability to RC in the dream and increase the vividness Throughout the whole time while im imagining it all, i cant RC in the dream, if i attempt then i do it in real life and i doesnt work. also, throughout the whole 'deep imagination' it feels i am NOT asleep but like i said, 'deeply imagining' but, when i open my eyes or wake up, it all feels like a dream. second to last, my WILD's seem third person, or 2/10 compared to my 6 or 7 out of ten DILD's. i can control what happens during the period i imagine it all, but the one time i drifted into sleep which was most likely the real WILD i had i lost control and dont remember anything at that point The last thing im going to mention is that my WILD's are not vivid at all. the case is is that im doing it wrong, or i need to use WBTB to escape the sounds and noises from RL or i need to extend my 'imagination' period and keep control Sorry for the longer post xP and thanks for your help!

[Hukif]

Eh, but being able to be aware of waking and dreaming at the same time is useful... Also how comes you can't RC? There are some motionless ones, especially for third person view. Vividness comes with practice really, as I said DILD > WILD for me so yeah. But yeah, doing WILD after a WBTB is way easier.

[Blaed]

wat are some motionless RC's?

[Hukif]

try to blow air through your closed mouth? Try to use telekinesis? Or some kind of power?