Sleep Paralysis Training?

[wintersleep]

Ive obviously noticed that the biggest and hardest part of the WILD technique is entering into sleep paralysis. I personally would like to practice solely the sleep paralysis section of the WILD. So my first question is: Does WBTB help the huge amount that people say it does for getting into SP or entering into the dream? If its the latter then i could just practice SP whenever right? Also, is there any special techniques you guys know of such as the free falling technique that can be used effectively without WBTB. Im mainly asking these things bc. during the week i dont really have time for WBTB so practising SP b4 a go to bed every night would be a lot more efficient. And im fully aware on how helpful WBTB is so plz dont force me to read another lecture on it.

[gab]

Well, the thing is, that you and everyone else gets into SP every single night, every time when we dream. But the only way to notice it is by WILDing (and when your mind wakes up before your body out of sync). So, in my opinion, practicing SP is technically practicing WILDing. WBTB helps you get into SP faster, because your body is already very relaxed, so you don't take long to get into SP. If you get into SP fast, you get to a dream fast. If you don't have time to WBTB, I would recommend technique called MILD. You practice it during daytime and a few minutes as you falling asleep. It doesn't require you to wait for SP or to get up at night for WBTB. Hope this helps

[fOrceez]

WBTB is almost crucial for WILDing, though.. If you're not planning to WBTB for WILD, your only other sensible option would be to WILD during an afternoon nap. Seeing as that limits you so much, I would really recommend going to MILD/DILD as this does not seem to suit your schedule.

[dreamORreality]

I also have a question about this, on an average, how long does it take an average dreamer (I remeber 2-4 dreams a night) to learn how to wild/wbtb ? Is 2 weeks possible?

[fOrceez]

2 weeks is possible but unlikely. It takes most WILDers over 1 year to perfect their WILD.

[snoop]

It depends on you. I've always had beginners luck, so I got my first WILD the first time I really tried it, but then I had a lot of trouble getting more after that. I would say not to focus so much on sleep paralysis--far over half of my WILD/WBTBs have occurred without ever experiencing SP. Sleep paralysis is really just a tool as far as I see it, one more way to ensure lucidity. You don't need it, but when you happen to find yourself in it, if you know how to transition from SP to dream well it can be immensely helpful in those situations. It basically ensures lucidity, but I find that when I even get to feeling anything like SP at all anymore I'm already dreaming. What I'm saying is, your goal is and should be to get lucid, not to enter sleep paralysis. Assuming you can learn to transition from SP to dream well, it's merely a plus and nothing more.

[wintersleep]

I know what im about to say is going to sound a bit mean but watevs. I know how to perform and have performed the MILD, and DILD techniques and i still actively do them so all the suggestions about trying these techniques when im in the WILD section asking about SP are a bit offensive and its kinda like you are saying give up at perfecting WILD and go back to the begginers guide. I was not asking, "what techniques do you guys think will work for my lifestyle?", i was asking for any techniques you guys know of that focus specifically on SP and how exactly WBTB affects inducing SP. Also, if you didnt know, a lot of people including myself like going through SP for multiple reason such as facing the fear and simply the feeling of being succesful at inducing it and being inside ones mind. And to DreamORreality, if you mean how long it takes to get your first one, i would say around 2 weeks would be average, but if you mean how long it takes for you to reach the point where you are confident that you will be successful bc. you have been succesful in the past then i would say no it is not possible in just 2 weeks. I personally started about 2 years ago and started studying the WILD a few months in and im still not to the point where it begins to come natural. You could call some of the ones i have had WILD's but ive only had a perfect WILD a few times.

[sanctum]

I actually disagree; I don't think SP is the hardest part of WILDing, simply because it is not a necessary part of a successful wake-induced lucid dream. I have never noticed SP before a successful WILD; I just realize when I enter a certain state of mind that I recognize as transitioning, and then I feel vibrations and whatnot and enter the dream. By the time I get to the transition my mind is so disconnected from my body I can't really feel it to tell if I can't move. So just remember that it's not a milestone you need to reach, like "tonight I'll get to SP, then the next night I'll get to HI, then the next night I'll go through the transition" etc. It does take some practice, but chances are your successful WILD will come all at once one night, when everything just works together. Then you try to replicate it each night.

[OneiroMoon]

i was asking for any techniques you guys know of that focus specifically on SP and how exactly WBTB affects inducing SP. WBTB is very helpful, because sleep paralysis occurs during REM sleep. In the mornings, you have lots of REM sleep. So, if you wake up after some hours of sleep, it will be much, much easier to stay conscious until the next REM period than it would be without previous sleep. During naps, you also have a lot of REM sleep. My last WILD was from a nap. I lied on the sofa and watched TV. I quickly fell asleep, but I woke up since I remembered to stay focused on the TV program. This happened several times, and before each awakening, I had been dreaming. Therefore, I decided to lucid dream. I reached sleep paralysis almost immediately, and some seconds later I was in a WILD. This doesn't classify as a new technique, but I've never before reached sleep paralysis that easy.

[snoop]

If you need help transitioning from SP to a dream, the only advice I can offer is to be creative. What worked for me ever since the first time I tried it when I didn't naturally go from SP to my dream, was to imagine there was a vortex at my feet. I immediately felt as though I were being sucked into this vortex kind of like you'd imagine a cartoonist would depict getting sucked into a black hole in space. After being sucked in, I was in my dream. You could probably do anything you want, but that's what works for me.

[gab]

After I get past the 'whatevs' to sounding mean, let me say, that you misunderstood everybody here, who is trying to help you and giving you great advice. Nobody is telling you not to do WILDs, so no need to get offended. You can't practice SP at the beginning of the night, because your 90 min sleep cycle starts with nREM, and only maybe last 10-15 min of cycle is REM. You can's skip nREM by laying in bed waiting for REM to practice SP. And you get to SP for REM, so you don't hurt yourself acting out your dream. That's why people do WBTB after hours of sleep. Then when you go back to bed, if you timed it right, you will enter REM right away, and together with that, you enter SP. As it was mentioned before, no need to focus on SP. It will come, wheather you notice it or not. It is not your goal, just a means to get you to LD.

[Sivason]

WBTB helps you get into SP faster, because your body is already very relaxed, so you don't take long to get into SP. If you get into SP fast, you get to a dream fast. If you don't have time to WBTB, I would recommend technique called MILD. You practice it during daytime and a few minutes as you falling asleep. It doesn't require you to wait for SP or to get up at night for WBTB. Hope this helps Awe the MILD so many people put that aside looking for quicker or flashier methods. MILD done well betters the person all around