Just an observation I have made, it seems more people say they have successfully WILDed without WBTB. This doesn't seem to make a huge amount of sense due to the way sleep cycles work but I have heard its possible. I still realise WBTB is vastly superior but what does everyone else think of this? Are people lying or just a coincedence or what? How does it work when you do it without WBTB, do you just have to stay consciouss until the REM rolls around?

Also, the point that first rem cycle is shorter and has less vivid dreams is a point.

Any thoughts on this recent flood of non wbtb wilds?