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      Angry DEILD help needed

      I've read many, many tutorials on DEILD. They all make it seem very easy (or at least not horrifically difficult) to somehow know to stay still and keep your eyes closed upon waking up. They describe the process in one or two lines then go on to ramble about all the other MUCH MUCH easier (in my opinion) parts of DEILD. Getting into a dream with the right awakening is the easiest part for me. I didn't even need to read a damn tutorial for that part.

      So, enough ranting out of anger at my own stupid shortcomings. What do you use to remind you to stay still and keep your eyes closed upon waking up? I've tried closing my eyes at multiple times throughout the day (and night) and thinking to myself "When I see this, I'll keep my eyes closed and remain perfectly still" but it never works. It's like my body wakes up and moves on its own, then about 10 second later I realize that I'm awake and I've screwed everything up.

      HELP.

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      Quote Originally Posted by KTDM View Post
      Getting into a dream with the right awakening is the easiest part for me. I didn't even need to read a damn tutorial for that part.
      You seem to contradict yourself here. Or am I missing something? If it's easy for you to enter dream this way, what is the problem?

      You just keep conditioning yourself by mantra as you falling asleep. "When I wake up I stay still" is short enough and it should work. Every time you wake up and you move, say the mantra again. Hopefully you will be saying your mantra closer and closer to the waking time and one day you won't move.

      But this is the theory. In reality, this has never worked for me, maybe because I didn't practice it for long enough. The way I see it, if you can remember not to move, you are already too awake.

      For me, DEILD has worked only when I just started to wake up and didn't fully wake up yet. More asleep than awake. At this time, my eyes are still glued shut and I don't even think of moving, because I'm still more asleep than awake. When this happens, that's when I DEILD.

      Getting angry and frustrated will not help. When you angry, you not enthusiastic, happy or appreciative and things will not go the way you want them to.

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      I meant that once I've been in the state of lying there still without opening my eyes, getting the vibrations and diving into the dream is no problem. However, getting to that state never happens (except for when I've prepared myself to wake up when I was already in a lucid dream, which doesn't happen anymore certain reasons).

      Bought myself an eye-mask. Maybe that will serve as some kind of physical reminder.

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      Remember that even if you move upon awakening or even if you open your eyes upon awakening. You can just move and change your sleeping posture to a comfortable one and then relax and daydream something and just as fast as in an awakening that you didn't move or didn't opened your eyes, you can induce an aware dream re-entry this way.

      You might not believe that it is this simple, but it really is. This morning I moved upon awakening even opened my eyes to check the time and then I focused on my breath and imagined myself seeing my room, suddenly I was sitting in my room meditating but in a dream! I wasn't aware that it was a dream though but if I next time for example imagine myself doing a reality check over and over, I might dream myself doing a reality check.

      Although when you acknowledge this and no longer are worried that it matters if you move or open your eyes, you will occasionally start to wake up without moving or open your eyes. The difference is that it might take you 5-10 seconds to enter the dream on a DEILD but perhaps 1-2 minutes with a MILD/WILD.

      So in other words, keep your intention of not moving or opening your eyes upon awakening, but remember that the attempt is far from over even if you move or open your eyes.

      Sweet dreams!
      Last edited by MasterMind; 10-07-2012 at 09:30 AM.
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      Thanks for the advice.
      I'm surprised with how well this mask thing is working for me. Last two days when my alarm has gone off I've managed to stay 100% still instantly.
      Looks like I might be setting my alarm a little late, though, because it doesn't feel like I'm waking up from a dream. Guess I'll try setting it ~30 minutes earlier.

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      ive been able to DEILD when i wake up and move around a bit. Its just i have to be really tired and visualize right. Staying still is the easy part for me, entering the dream is the hard part.

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