Thread: I...just...gotta..move...! UGH!

You really don't need to worry about it.
http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html

All you need to do is work on your mind and fall asleep during WILD. Scratch, pop, move. Just go to sleep.

The idea of not moving, swalloving, scratching... is kinda outdated. Things may move along faster if you still, but changing position, for example, will not ruin it. Especially, if the urge to move or scratch or swallow becomes distracting and disruptive. It's better to take care of it as if you were just going to sleep normally. Without giving it another thought or getting upset over it.

Originally Posted by gab

The idea of not moving, swalloving, scratching... is kinda outdated. Things may move along faster if you still, but changing position, for example, will not ruin it. Especially, if the urge to move or scratch or swallow becomes distracting and disruptive. It's better to take care of it as if you were just going to sleep normally. Without giving it another thought or getting upset over it.

ONe more ? question When in sleep paralysis. LIke when its tingling or something like that can I move or will it ruin the sleep parlysis?

Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDream

ONe more ? question When in sleep paralysis. LIke when its tingling or something like that can I move or will it ruin the sleep parlysis?

Sleep Paralysis Explained


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Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDream

ONe more ? question When in sleep paralysis. LIke when its tingling or something like that can I move or will it ruin the sleep parlysis?

You don't need SP to lucid dream. Especially, if you never had SP as you falling asleep normally, you will not have SP when WILDing. If you wait for it, you will fail, because it will most likely never come.

BTW, SP is when you can't move at all. The tingling and other sensations are part of falling asleep. And yes, during these you can move, if you have to. Just do it gently. Please, read the above linked article about SP - it will answer all your questions.

If you like to try WILDing, here is a great tutorial (sageous).

Don't move. That feeling of being uncomfortable is a sign of REM-Antonia coming on. Just muscle through it, it'll get easier once REM-A starts.

Originally Posted by gab

The idea of not moving, swalloving, scratching... is kinda outdated. Things may move along faster if you still, but changing position, for example, will not ruin it. Especially, if the urge to move or scratch or swallow becomes distracting and disruptive. It's better to take care of it as if you were just going to sleep normally. Without giving it another thought or getting upset over it.

I agree completely, and I am rather surprised I haven't came across another post stating the same, as blunt and simple as your own, until now. Its really not that complicated and you are right, you just need to fall asleep essentially. I had been attempting the "staying still" aspect of the ordeal for quite some time and had little, to no luck a large majority of the time. From my personal findings through meditation over a large span of time, it was better to simply take care of what needed to be done to feel comfortable. After I take those steps needed, scratching, adjusting, and so on I came to the conclusion that it was a lot easier to fully relax and pass into that state because you aren't constantly in worry of the things that brought you bother and just plain ol' discomfort. I highly recommend this "style" if you will.

Originally Posted by Brent1938

Don't move. That feeling of being uncomfortable is a sign of REM-Antonia coming on. Just muscle through it, it'll get easier once REM-A starts.

This is incorrect.

Originally Posted by Ladendais

I agree completely, and I am rather surprised I haven't came across another post stating the same, as blunt and simple as your own, until now. Its really not that complicated and you are right, you just need to fall asleep essentially. I had been attempting the "staying still" aspect of the ordeal for quite some time and had little, to no luck a large majority of the time. From my personal findings through meditation over a large span of time, it was better to simply take care of what needed to be done to feel comfortable. After I take those steps needed, scratching, adjusting, and so on I came to the conclusion that it was a lot easier to fully relax and pass into that state because you aren't constantly in worry of the things that brought you bother and just plain ol' discomfort. I highly recommend this "style" if you will.

Thank you for your support There are some recent posts stating the same, I can't claim I thought of this first.

I guess, the "don't move" attitude has been practiced for a long time, but now it's shifing towards "move, if you need to". Even so, tutorials with "don't move" attitude are still prevalent.

Same way, as I'm able to fall asleep during normal night just seconds after I scratched, switched position, swallowed, I'm able to fall asleep during WILD attempt.

Why we can fall asleep when falling asleep normally is, because we move and do all that automatically, without giving it another thought and certainly not worrying about it. So if we do the same when WILDing, it should have same effect.