Was this OBE? It was the most vivid thing ever.

[AliD123]

Hi! firstly i have a big fear for sleep paralysis ever since i experienced it (4 weeks ago) and i have been having troubles sleeping every since. So when I want to sleep I continuously move my foot to prevent myself being relaxed enough to go through Sleep Paralysis. This morning i experienced something very vivid, but it was not vivid at first it became gradual . So because i have had trouble sleeping i'm usually so worried about sleeping that it causes me to wake up 5-6 times during the night. Today i woke up at 7:24am, and i had experienced sleep paralysis at the same time just a few days ago. So i did not want to risk going through it again and i was feeling scared, and i always feel a sense of relief when i am sleeping in my parents room so i went to them and they agreed i could just sleep on the floor because i would be getting up after 4 hours. I lied down, and continuously moved my foot up and down however it took me 20 minutes to start feeling sleepy again. I started to drift off, but then i started seeing weird images of scary faces like zombies and monsters so i just got up shook my head and went back down. I then started to think of this beautiful girl i really like, i always think of her when sleeping because it gives me something to concentrate on and gives me some relief. After a few moments i felt like i was asleep, however all i could see was darkness, and i thought i was dreaming darkness. And then came the horrid thumping in my ears and the vibrations and i felt really light. I started to panic and i started seeing those scary faces again but i just tried to concentrate on imagining this girl, and then al of a sudden it felt really relaxing, the vibrations started to turn in some sort of massage and it was really refreshing! It then felt like i was smiling, but i obviously couldn't move my mouth. Then off a sudden i felt a surge of electricity passing through my body and this woke my up. I woke up in the same position as i was asleep, i got up and shook my head. I looked at my parents king size bed and it was super white and clean and all the pillows were straight. So at this point it felt like i was asleep for a long, long time. I also started to question myself "am i still dreaming". So i opened the door (it was open when i fell asleep) and everything looked so real and vivid, and it was all perfect. it was my house! And there was sunlight, it was beautiful for a dream. I wanted to confirm myself that i wasn't dreaming so i shouted "MUM, DAD" ad for the first 10 seconds there was no reply, i got scared for a second "so i shouted MUUM DAAD and then after a couple of seconds they both, at the same time said, mum :yes darling, dad: Morning Son!", i had a sense of relif. But then i had some sort of urge to look down, so i slowly looked down at where i was sleeping on the floor and i don't remember what i saw, all i felt was shock and i woke up breathing fast and heavily. I am really confused if this was OBE? What else could it be? I'm sorry i have written so much i always write a lot :/ Thanks!

[BossMan]

Most people report seeing themselves lying in their bed still sleeping after waking out of bed. OBE is suppose to be different from a dream in the sense that it is not a dream, you are passing into a reality through spirit form (Or a floating consciousness... whatever...). Some even say they are linked to their real bodies via a silver chord so that they can come back and don't get stuck in whatever place they are going. Anyway, point being is its not a dream OBE's are something else. So its possible you were in a OBE, its also doubtful though. Personally I just think they are very intense lucid dreams as their is no evidence beyond personal experience validating OBE's Maybe If I experience one for myself my mind will change, I simply just don't believe in them though.

[AliD123]

oh so OBE's are not dreams? I thought they were just extremely vivid lifelike dreams where you continue everyday life. but thanks!

[blackbirdrising]

You didn't see yourself. That's not an OBE. All you did was dream of your safe place (home, with your parents, perfectly made and clean). Please don't be afraid to go to sleep. I used to OBE a lot as a child, did it less as I got older (and do it even less in my 40's - I pretty much have to be awake and shocked out of my system, by this time). An OBE is something like, what I recall when I was 7 years old. I had gone to sleep at my bedtime, but I went to sleep wanting to be awake so I could hang out with my dad (he was working 3 jobs, and by some miracle he was home that night). I still to this day, remember looking down at myself in bed sleeping, being near the ceiling, floating down the hallway and when I got to my destination (the living room, behind the recliner so I could hide), I came down and hid. I don't know how long I sat there, it felt like just a minute or so, but I do remember my father looking up from what he was doing, his face drained of blood and him looking like he was forcing himself to think rationally at the sight of me, and him saying "Carolyn... go to bed." In an instant I was back in my bed, waking up from the event. Years later, when I was around 25 years old, and pregnant with my 2nd child, me and my dad were having a heart to heart, sit down chat. The topic of that night, me being 7 years old, hiding behind the recliner, came up. He explained why he was scared out of his mind when he saw me, and apologized having been so cross when he told me to go to bed. According to him, when he saw me behind the chair, he thought I was a ghost because what he saw, that was me, had no feet. I remember when he told me that, I grabbed his hand and smiled, and I apologized too, for scaring him. I explained that when I was a child, I did this regularly - leaving my body. More often when I was awake than asleep. Many relatives reported seeing me two places at once when I was young. (I'm probably not the only one here, who did that). My adult OBE's were only in times of great physical pain, shock, or extreme happiness, and usually involved blowing a light bulb nearby, or some kind of electrical appliance. I did it once when I was in a car accident at age 17, I remember floating above my body and quickly checking the damage to the car before I was back in my body and physically trying to get out, and found out that my ankles were both fractured the second I put my feet on the ground. I did it once when I was 30 years old, when I was very pregnant with my 4th child, I actually fried the ultrasound machine at the OB/GYN office, that was so embarrassing. I couldn't help it, seeing my healthy child made me that happy. That whole pregnancy was strange, first of all I found out I was pregnant when I was 20 weeks along (I had no symptoms of pregnancy), and then was advised at 24 weeks to abort her because some blood test (normally given in the first trimester) came back saying she had a slew of diseases that she didn't even have! She turned out to have Type 1 Diabetes, but that wasn't diagnosed until she was 3 years old. Off topic, sorry. The last time I OBE'ed, I was 41 years old, awake, and I had just been reunited with my dear friend Adam, who I loved since we were 15 years old, and who is now my life partner. We had been apart, and out of contact for 19 years and 3 months, since our last time together, when we finally met in a parking lot. We had grown up a thousand miles away from where we were, and by some miracle, he had moved to my city (following a job, having no idea I lived there at the time, we reconnected on of all places, Facebook). And it was right when both of us needed each other the most. It was March 5th, 2011. I was so happy, when I saw him come out of that building, it was like time stood still, and suddenly I saw myself from above my head. I watched myself tear across the parking lot, I was running! And as soon as he caught me, I was back in my body, and I smelled him, breathed him in deep, both of us cried, shaking, holding each other so tight, I remember thinking at that moment, I wanted to live another 40 years, at least, so we could have time together...our time. I'm sorry for going into so much detail.

[gab]

You had a almost lucid dream called WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream. That's when you go straight from being awake into a dream. Only thing missing was you realizing you were dreaming, although you were questioning it. Had you used a Reality Check instead of calling out to your parents, you would have know for sure that you are dreaming. Sometimes when you do what you did - going to sleep but not really wanting to sleep because of fear, your body may fall asleep but your mind stays aware. That's basically how you WILD. As you moving from NREM sleep stage into REM, you may notice some hallucinations as you did last time. But as you noticed, thay last only short time and afterwards you get into a dream that can be incredibly realistic. Fun part is, that you can do anything you want in these dreams. Like fly, drive cars, battle zombies, go to space, just about anything. Here is a great WILD (sageous) tutorial that will explain the whole process, so you don't have to be scared and so you can have another lucid, if you wish so. Please do ask, if you need help with anything. Happy dreams ***Moved to WILD***

[AliD123]

THAKNS Gab! I understand now. Yeah i did think that having a fear of sleeping when i'm sleeping would trigger WILD. but the sleep paralysis is becoming more frequent now, and its becoming very annoying. It always happens after 8am, it never happens before 8am. However, this morning was a different experience. I had sleep paralysis this morning at around 8:25am, probably because i was trying to sleep but too scared to again. However it felt really different this time, it felt like it was going on and off throughout the whole thing. Like i stopped feeling it and then it came back every few seconds. As i always do i tried to stay calm by thinking about this girl i like. After a few moments i actually calmed down, the thumping and vibrations and this point were at its peak and it felt uncomfortable. However because i was calm i took advantage of this and decided to go deeper into the process and see what i can do, I tried to imagine being on the beach with the warm sun soothing my body as i lie on the sand. But this was really hard to construct as a dream as random unwanted thoughts kept coming into my head. Then the vibrations and thumping all stopped, but i kept the thought in my head "This is a dream" I forcefully opened my eyes to wake up in my room with a couple of random people i didn't even know, just some people playign boardgames or something. I knew i was dreaming at this point and i was amazed and so happy! I first thought about having sex with some random blonde girl who was in my bedroom, but then i thought that would just wake me up and i want to continue this experience. i tried to fly but i couldnt do it i tried really hard but nothing would work. Then my mum walked in the room and opened a door that was originally closed, so i thought i'd walk out the door. This was still my house even though i wanted to be on the beach. I walked around my house to find that all the furniture that should be downstairs has been swapped around. And to find that my cat was missing a tail, so i thought about giving my cat a tail and a tail just grew out of him O_O that was pretty freaky to be honest. i also went round pointing my finger on the ground and every time i point it a tree would come out of the ground and grow in my house. I am enjoying how vivid and life like my dreams are becoming but at the same time i really want to stop sleep paralysis happening to me. Let's say this happens again tomorrow morning, how do i stop wakign up in my house and wake up in a place i want to be? Thanks! (sorry for another long message -_-) I thought it would be nice to share another experience ;D

[gab]

Hey, that's an awesome experience. You pulled off a WILD, congrats! Now, unless you are completely paralysed, so you can't move no matter what, I think you don't have SP. The vibrations and HH and many other different sensations HH you may/may not notice are normal signs of falling asleep. If that's the case, you should not try to get rid of them, since as you know by now, they are an indicator of a lucid dream getting closer. Although they should be observed just passively, you should not pay too much, if any attention to them, because then your attention is on your physical body. I get vibrations the most often, but also motion and flying sensation and my favorite type of entry into WILD is through the images. Here is an article about Sensations and types of entry into WILD. For now, I would say don't try to change your dreamscape. Most of the WILDs start in your room. It may sound boring, but take advantage of a nice and stable lucid and get used to being and interacting with dream environment. You can try levitating, changing things, summoning, and any other type of control you can think of. But if you really want to be someplace else, just be sure that it is behind the door, then open the door and go through it. Please do ask if you need anything else. Happy dreams

[AliD123]

Hey, that's an awesome experience. You pulled off a WILD, congrats! Now, unless you are completely paralysed, so you can't move no matter what, I think you don't have SP. The vibrations and HH and many other different sensations HH you may/may not notice are normal signs of falling asleep. If that's the case, you should not try to get rid of them, since as you know by now, they are an indicator of a lucid dream getting closer. Although they should be observed just passively, you should not pay too much, if any attention to them, because then your attention is on your physical body. I get vibrations the most often, but also motion and flying sensation and my favorite type of entry into WILD is through the images. Here is an article about Sensations and types of entry into WILD. For now, I would say don't try to change your dreamscape. Most of the WILDs start in your room. It may sound boring, but take advantage of a nice and stable lucid and get used to being and interacting with dream environment. You can try levitating, changing things, summoning, and any other type of control you can think of. But if you really want to be someplace else, just be sure that it is behind the door, then open the door and go through it. Please do ask if you need anything else. Happy dreams Thank you . Nah i couldn't move at all. When i say it goes "on and off" i mean that every few seconds i would stop feeling the vibrations and thumping and just see darkness, but then it would all kick in after a few seconds again and this kept occurring. The weird thing is, every time i go through this i will ALWAYS have the feeling of someone stroking my cheeks or my head, and my mum used to do this when i was little all the time because I used to enjoy it. So could this link together as something trying to calm me down? Just a thought i had Also, how can i fly? Because i spent most of my dream trying different stances thinking that it would make me fly. I like jumped and said "fly", i Stood still and just pointed my fist in the air like superman but i couldnt do it at all, i would have thought that if i thought about flying i would have been able to> maybe i did something wrong :S Thanks for your help! Sorry if i am asking so many questions

[gab]

The weird thing is, every time i go through this i will ALWAYS have the feeling of someone stroking my cheeks or my head, and my mum used to do this when i was little all the time because I used to enjoy it. So could this link together as something trying to calm me down? Just a thought i had Those are tactile hallucinations. They are most likely to happen if you think that it will happen. If you scared or anxcious or have unpleasant thoughts, the HH may be scary. Best thing to do is to have pleasant thoughts and imagine some favorite pretty and calm place. Also, how can i fly? Because i spent most of my dream trying different stances thinking that it would make me fly. I like jumped and said "fly", i Stood still and just pointed my fist in the air like superman but i couldnt do it at all, i would have thought that if i thought about flying i would have been able to> maybe i did something wrong :S Try not to even think about flying, about how to, which pose is better, and so on. Rather think about going/being somewhere in the distance by way of flying, but without trying to fly. Like when you are walking in waking life. You don't think about which muscles to contract first, the mechanics of it, and what to do, you just make a step. Flying tutorial Can you fly? How did you learn? SP explained

[AliD123]

Oh right. Thanks Gab! i have learnt a lot from you

[AliD123]

Up again at 7am -_- scared of falling back asleep. What is wrong with me -_-

[AliD123]

hello there! It has been a while. I would like to say that I have gotten over my fear of sleep paralysis I would also like to ask, nearly every night now i always am in a dream where i am just sleeping, and im moving my body around in my bed but its all a dream. How can i make this into something? because i only realize it was a dream when i actually wake up lol