Thread: Movement and WILD

I think that state of the mind is tad bit more important than movement itself.

I believe that it's important to not move too much. If you have to move to take care of something that is distracticting you, do it slowly, without paying any attention to it. Think back - do you remember that you had to scratch/change possiton/swallow last time you were falling asleep normally (not WILDing)? We don't remember that. Because we don't pay attention to it. And yet we do fall asleep, even when tossing and turning. Of course, I don't recommend tossing and turnig.

One of my best experiences when I was WILDing was when I gave up, turned to my side and went to sleep. In less than 15 sec I was floating 10 inches underneath my ceiling. Which, if you don't believe in OBEs, was a LD

Originally Posted by gab

Think back - do you remember that you had to scratch/change possiton/swallow last time you were falling asleep normally (not WILDing)? We don't remember that. Because we don't pay attention to it.

I think this answers everything. Movement is irrelevant to a WILD attempt. The only relevance it has is to falling asleep. It's hard to fall asleep if you are moving around. No sleep = no dream = no WILD.

Originally Posted by JoannaB

I was successful at WILD once, but am unable to reproduce it, and I don't know whether I moved or not during my one successful WILD.

This is exactly why it is such a common belief that you can't move at all during a WILD attempt. Some people luck into their first WILD and have no idea what caused the success. They attribute it to a lack of movement because it's much easier to remember what your body was doing physically than it is to remember what your mind was doing. And it's much easier to control the movement of your body than it is to control the movements of your mind. Focusing on your body and its movements gives you a false sense of being in total control of the attempt. But a WILD is all in the the mind. Mental discipline is key.

Ah, I think I have stumbled on the crux of the matter: I am not very good at falling asleep, at least not quickly. I think I overthink it or something. So maybe I need to figure out how do I fall asleep successfully. It's one of those things I do every night ultimately, and some nights I can even do it quickly, but it is hard to do it right because I am usually not paying enough attention so I don't know what works.

As I have already mentioned this a few times, and sorry for repeating, but you can trick your mind. If you get too excited about prospect of WILDing (and who doesn's, right?), you can just tell yourself "No, not WILDing today. Just going to sleep". Then just watch the back of your eyelids and see what happens.

It's ok to not to get lucid on first try. I think everybody goes through the process of familiarizing himself with the whole "how does it feel when falling asleep".

Everything will be new and strange. The relaxed feeling, the heaviness feeling, the floatiness feeling, the fog, the images, full blown dreamlets, falling feeling. Every single one of these, no matter how subtle, have a great potential of getting us excited. That's ok. Next time you will know what's coming and tell yourself, that you won't get excited and keep your cool and experience the next awesome thing. Then next thing wakes you up and that's how it goes, until you can keep it together long enough for a dream to form.

But don't try to replicate what happened last time. It most likely never will happen exactly like that. Just go to sleep, while keeping an eye out. Like a spy. Don't let them notice you, don't show emotions. Or do show emotions. It is so freekin cool when you get any of the HH. Wake up and enjoy the feeling you just had.