Thread: Any tips for WILD?

I used to have two very annoying problems when I attempted to WILD in the beginning of my practise.

First problem was that I used to fall asleep unoconsciously very easily. I could sit, lay on my back, do it during the day, nothing helped.

Second, if I managed to stay aware I was still not transitioning to the dream, even though I might have been laying still and aware for over an hour!

But then I read about Frank Kepple and his Phase Theory, that talks about the OBE/ Lucid dreaming state as a focus of awareness first and foremost rather than a state of mind. Well basically that you can induce it at any time sleep is not needed.

This is because this Focus isn't dependent on your mind, that is that it is not a creation of your mind it's only induced with your mind. Just like a computer isn't creating the World of Warcraft world but rather connecting to the information, the brain isn't creating the non-physical world but rather connecting to it. This might be too spiritual for some but stay with me because the tool I learned from Kepple helped me solve my two problems.

Frank Kepple also talks about a Mental Primer/ Mental Rundown which works as both a tool to practise the transition in just seconds, but if that is too difficult it also prepares your mind and makes it easier to find the right Focus on your own.

The mental primer is basically just a visualization that you go through, that makes you forget about the physical world and your physical body, and when you do, and your awareness is TOTALLY focused on the non-physical, well then you are there, because your awareness is there. This is the whole idea of Focus Level theory. You can't just will yourself to forget about the physical of course, what I do is to imagine different things I am familiar with, yesterday I imagined a nightclub and I walked through the hall, took shots, looked at people dancing, and then I was suddenly just there.

Even if you don't believe in the spiritual or well this odd explanation of how it works, in fact it's suggested that you dont believe in things you don't have own experiences of, it is still a good idea to just be open to the fact that it can also be possible, just like when you first encountered lucid dreaming.
I am sure you know now how much people, that don't practise lucid dreaming because of hard skepticism, really miss!

But anyway this small little tip made me realize what I did wrong before and why nothing happened while I was laying still for hours.

I used to focus on relaxation and while I was doing that I was FOCUSING on my PHYSICAL body. Checking to see if I was relaxed enough.
Well the logic should be simple with Focus Theory. FOCUS -> PHYSICAL = You are in the physical.
Later on I started to use Kepple's visualization and well zoned in on the non-physical and experienced a few seconds of being out, until I got shocked because what I was feeling felt real, and I thoguht about my physical body and was back in my bed.

The reason I am telling you this, is so you can avoid hours of laying still and nothing happening, and also so you understand that you don't need sleep all you need is to switch your focus. So don't worry about not being able to fall asleep. But at the same time don't worry about falling asleep unconsciously I am a living proof that it can be overcomed with practise (You can read how I do it in m DJ).

But you don't have to practise during the day of course, I just do it to prove a point to myself, that focus theory is reality.
In fact during the night and after some sleep your body and brain is naturally in a state where it is easier to switch focus, which I of course also take advantage of. Every awakening I have, I transition to the non-physical in seconds.

In my Dream Journal you can read more about this, but if it's too out there, (my favourite hobby is to attempt the impossible...) just use the information as you wish. All I am doing is trying to prevent you from going through the illusionary waiting game of WILD.

Have fun!

Like MasterMind says, don't worry about time, don't focus on the act of falling asleep itself, don't try to force it, just let it happen and don't wait for HI, i have done WILD many times where i didn't had any HI indication at all, also check out this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ntry-wild.html

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Thank you mastermind for your nice post! I am actually familiar with this and found it out some time ago, and I can induce some kind of lucid dream state while awake. A thread about lucid daydreaming got my attention and it made me wonder if I could disconnect from reality by putting all my attention into it and eventually make it as real as a LD. It worked out pretty well and was as vivid as an average lucid. I did a bit of experimenting since then, but I was more preoccupied by ADA and it didn't really came to my mind when I thought about WILD.

This is a powerful method rarely described on the forums, I think it should have it's own tutorial thread so more people can get to know about it!

Frank Kepple have already mapped out the whole journey, which is what I am currently following.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...w0/edit?pli=1#

Although when I am at the same level as him and are able to transition in seconds by just willing myself out, I might share a detailed guide of my experience.

But for now my DJ have to be enough, and those who are interested will eventually find the work by this man.

The thing is that almost every WILD tutorial describes this process, however they focus too much on relaxation and sleep's connection to the non-physical which makes WILD sound like a waiting game. This is because of some general beliefs about dreams and the non-physical.

However with the focus levels you don't have those limitations, which was why I got interested in it.

Good luck with your future practise SIMDML!

My tip is to not set an alarm for when doing WILD, just do it when you wake up naturally since that will get you in sp muuuuch quicker. I did it last night and it took me around 5min to end up in a dream. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Frequent22

My tip is to not set an alarm for when doing WILD, just do it when you wake up naturally since that will get you in sp muuuuch quicker. I did it last night and it took me around 5min to end up in a dream. Good luck!

Sorry, but you have been misinformed, SP is not a part of WILD or even lucid dreaming in general, WILD is about falling asleep while being aware. http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...mystified.html