Eye twiching, was is hypnagogia?

**MikeLucidium** · 01-22-2020 02:49 PM

So today i had a few free minutes at my lunch break and i sat in a quiet room and started to meditate (Im posting it in the WILD section because the issue happens usualy when i try to WILD).

After about 5 minutes of "focusing" on my breath, i just "decided" to stop the deep breathing because they felt very "controled" like im putting effort into them.

But then something strange happened.
My breath became very shallow and "from the belly".
(It was almost automatic).

Then imidiatly my vision of darkness was filled with intense sparks (like when you rub your eyes).
My eyes started twiching while closed.

I was intrested in investigating further but my break was over so i went back to work.

The question is:

What do these eye twiching mean? I have them also while trying to WILD.
Maybe it means that my eyes are not relaxed but its weird cause they dont twitch when im less relaxed, so why do they start twiching when im more relax?

Someone had this thing with the breath going shallow and suddently many sparks?
What was it?

Whats strange is that even when i return to my work after a minute i tried closing my eyes and the sparks where still there...

**zelcrow** · 01-23-2020 04:33 AM

Hey, I don't know if this is helpful, but I'm trying to understand. When you say your eyes are twitching, do you mean your eyelids are twitching or are you saying the sparks are like twitching?

I have never heard of that happening. I have been doing meditation for a while now and have not experienced this, though it is not a bad thing.

How long did it take for it to completely go away? And have meditated since? If so, has that happened again?

**MikeLucidium** · 01-23-2020 08:24 AM

I mean that my eyelids were twitching... it did go away only when i actually opened my eyes... that flashes were just more intense

**Sketch1** · 03-09-2020 01:42 PM

On page two of this forum another user reported something similar:

Originally Posted by DannyDesu

Hello all!

Just recently, I have figured out the key (for me) to attain WILDs multiple times in one night.

This is my first guide on this site and I hope that I can debunk some of the misconceptions people have of WILD through the sensations I experience in my attempts. This, by no means is a "One-size-fits-all" thing. These don't apply to everyone, just like every WILD guide!
Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming is like a mind game:
it's a race to the finish line: will your mind fall asleep first or your body?
Maybe that was a bad analogy... Through other people's experiences and techniques to keep their mind aware (counting, visualizing, any type of word association game, environmental anchors), we can use these to our advantage! Not every one of them will work for all of us, however, but this will give us a head-start into fun lucid dreaming.

Many people don't realize they were lucid dreaming and think they had a failed attempt! Especially during WILD attempts, my dream starts off with me in bed with my eyes closed!

So here comes MY experiences that hailed 5 lucid dreams in 3 nights that I hope you can learn from:

REM Atonia
I have had a few experiences with REM atonia, not including the ones where I could have been in a dream when I didn't realize it.
Some examples of REM atonia or approaching REM atonia can be:
- A feeling of your brain a few inches away from your body
- Hallucinations (Phone buzzing, knocking on the door, whispering)
- Eyes vibrating back and forth
- Feeling like concrete in your bed
- Being inside your bed

1. When I lay in my bed attempting a WILD (after WBTB), I start off by counting or visualizing:
- When I count, I say in my head: "1... I'm gonna have a lucid dream. 2.. etc" until I feel REM atonia coming on.
- **This prevents me from falling unconscious because that would only result in non-lucid dreams or a MILD.**
- I make sure to stay aware of what I am saying in my head because "1... I'm gonna have a lucid dream" will turn into "25... I'm gonna sheathe my sword. 12.. I'm gonna kill him." and eventually, you will wander into the pits of sleep. If this starts to happen, focus a little bit harder on trying to say your mantra or number or play your mind game or visualization.

2. When I start experiencing the above REM atonia examples, I try to make sure fluttering eyes is part of it. This is a big signal for me to know that I am ready to enter a dream. When my eyes start to vibrate, I count to 5 and force myself to roll out.

3. RC (you should hopefully be in a dream)

4. If you are not in a dream, you can try it again and you should only be set back ~5-10 minutes since you are already relaxed.

I cut his post down a bit (and highlighted the relevant bits in red), so you might want to seek out the original. If the two of you are experiencing the same thing, then perhaps his techniques might work for you?

**Appamada** · 08-11-2020 02:56 AM

Remember how you were breathing when it became involuntary and recreate it at night before you go to bed. You can just let it become involuntary while you have awareness of it too.