Thread: I Cant do it anymore

I have the SAME problem!! Maybe if you change your position in the bed it may help. I hear you usually have to swallow more frequently if you're lying on your back...

You could always try DILDing and see how that works out.

Originally Posted by AaronBrien521

i cant resist the need to swallow, even if i dont need to
This is reaching the point of impossible, Help me?
I want to lucid dream so bad
How do i stop this urge
My body cant resist it, no matter how hard i try

That's because it's a reflex. As much as I commend Slayer for giving you that advice in chat earlier, just let it happen, but don't focus on it. That's all it takes. Otherwise you would be better off using another technique.

You can swallow and move just fine. Instead of focusing on the little aches, just move a bit or swallow, and you can still get into SP just fine. Your body does not have to be completely still with no swallowing, LaBerge just did it that way to not tamper with the machine's readings.

Try reading this post: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=61525
It should help you to not focus so much on your swallowing reflex.

There is usually no urge, if your mind is occupied somehow. Usually these urges come only, when you start to concentrate on your body becouse you have nothing else to do?

I suggest you just sit down, and prepare yourself for wild by finding ways how to entertain your mind before you even start to think about performing WILD attempts. You can do nothing, if you are not prepared.


So the question should not sound: how can you resist swallow? The question should be, what else can you do instead of thinking about your body.

DO YOU KNOW?

I had the same problem at first. I usually daydream to not focus on the swallowing reflex. I love daydreaming .

Yea , This always happends to me but i have kind of a little trick, I start to think of something else, use all your power to stop thinking about your saliva or anything related to that, and later you will get like "immune" to it, you can actually feel the saliva there but you dont have that urge to swallow.

Originally Posted by nicobinho

Yea , This always happends to me but i have kind of a little trick, I start to think of something else, use all your power to stop thinking about your saliva or anything related to that, and later you will get like "immune" to it, you can actually feel the saliva there but you dont have that urge to swallow.

This really looks like insightfull comment. But my question would be. What is it, your mind should be doing instead of thinking saliva is building in your mouth? If I am understanding it well, you are suggesting us to think about something else and at the same time put all our power to stop thinking about saliva. Do you

1. Put your full strength against saliva and then think about something else?
or
2. Think about something else straight away and wait till the urge fades out?

Let us know. Thanx

Usually for me its very easy once i want to swallow i focus very hard and think "i wont swallow it will pass soon" and it really does pass after 20 secs i feel fine again and it rarely comes back for second time even if it does i fight it again and it doesnt come back for the third time for sure.

Originally Posted by sirva

Usually for me its very easy once i want to swallow i focus very hard and think "i wont swallow it will pass soon" and it really does pass after 20 secs i feel fine again and it rarely comes back for second time even if it does i fight it again and it doesnt come back for the third time for sure.

So you simply fight it with pure mind power? Interesting. I use more indirect methods, but this one is worth testing.

Originally Posted by adraw

This really looks like insightfull comment. But my question would be. What is it, your mind should be doing instead of thinking saliva is building in your mouth? If I am understanding it well, you are suggesting us to think about something else and at the same time put all our power to stop thinking about saliva. Do you

1. Put your full strength against saliva and then think about something else?
or
2. Think about something else straight away and wait till the urge fades out?

Let us know. Thanx

Well, what i do is not think about the saliva at all, i start like to think about my feet, legs, arms, and i start to relax them , because the more i think about the saliva (directly or indirectly) the more the urge.

I don't see why everyone thinks you can't swallow, if I have to swallow because there's a ton of saliva built up I just do it reflexively and continue with my WILD technique. I can't think of any instances when swallowing has "blew it" for me trying to WILD.

And I was really the opposite. At the beginning. I really didnt knew what to do, so everything, what happenned in my body caught my attention. Saliva was no exception. Trough practice, I learned, that what happens in my body is only secondary to WILD itself, so I moved more into mental space, starting to Daydream more instead of watching my body fall asleep. And that did the trick for me.