Thread: Yoshi's WILD Technique...

Good luck in your future attempts and remember, the whole idea with the WILD process IS to fall asleep. Basically, you are just falling asleep while conscious. Make sure you don't keep yourself awake, thus preventing a successful attempt. Allow yourself to fall asleep, just try and witness this process (stay aware). Good luck to everyone.

Damnit. right after reading your WILD guide bit about how when you WILD you dream of being in bed still... i realize i probably WILDed last night but failed to realize it! i got to SP and saw a dream scene and then it went away i was back in bed... staring at my ceiling.
Also, this is almost exactly what im already doing O_o except for the turning over more than once part. normally for me, i only turn over once and then i fall into SP.

Originally Posted by Skydreamer707

Damnit. right after reading your WILD guide bit about how when you WILD you dream of being in bed still... i realize i probably WILDed last night but failed to realize it! i got to SP and saw a dream scene and then it went away i was back in bed... staring at my ceiling.
Also, this is almost exactly what im already doing O_o except for the turning over more than once part. normally for me, i only turn over once and then i fall into SP.

Yeah, often times, once I turn over the first time, I hit SP right there. I regularly hit SP in 10 minutes or less with this technique. You could very well have been within a dream. Always try to perform a RC, even if you are sure you failed. There have been several occasions where I thought my WILD failed, but I performed a RC and I had actually succeeded.

i'm going to give it a shot in a few minutes (after meditating)... thanks!

Are u allowed to swallow at any time during this its the only thing i can't get past.

Originally Posted by SethTheWolf

Are u allowed to swallow at any time during this its the only thing i can't get past.

Yeah, swallow any time you need to. Worrying about not being able to swallow and forcing yourself not to swallow is much worse than going ahead and swallowing. If you need to swallow go ahead and do it, don't even think twice about it.

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

Yeah, swallow any time you need to. Worrying about not being able to swallow and forcing yourself not to swallow is much worse than going ahead and swallowing. If you need to swallow go ahead and do it, don't even think twice about it.

I always try not to swallow and think so much of it if I do. I will now do the opposite. Thanks Yoshi!
-CV

Hey, Im not sure if this is just me, but after turning a few times, I go out like a light. Any advice for how to keep myself from falling asleep?

Originally Posted by TheDeadlyFuzz

Hey, Im not sure if this is just me, but after turning a few times, I go out like a light. Any advice for how to keep myself from falling asleep?

Counting, using a mantra, etc.... are good ways to keep yourself from falling asleep

Aww.. So close.. I was JUST in sp, feeling like I was on a waterbed, seeing weird things, but then I heard this kinda gross noice that sounded like.... some kind of goo moving around and I kinda jolted up... plus... I kinda forgot what to do after seeing and hearing things.

Originally Posted by TheDeadlyFuzz

Hey, Im not sure if this is just me, but after turning a few times, I go out like a light. Any advice for how to keep myself from falling asleep?

Thats good. Remember, you want to fall asleep, that is the whole point. You just have to work on keeping your mind in a conscious state. Make sure while you are doing the technique that you always keep "I'm trying to WILD, I need to stay conscious" in the back of your head. Once you begin to feel real tired during the technique, your almost there. You have to push to keep that conscious thought going.

Originally Posted by OminusFlame

Aww.. So close.. I was JUST in sp, feeling like I was on a waterbed, seeing weird things, but then I heard this kinda gross noice that sounded like.... some kind of goo moving around and I kinda jolted up... plus... I kinda forgot what to do after seeing and hearing things.

Just relax and allow the whole SP experience to wash over you. Let all the hallucinations come and go. Allow the process to do the work for you, and once the hallucinations pass, you should be within your dream. All you have to do is start exploring/etc.

But oh well, Im going to go try again.

Do i really need to use this with a WBTB or can i use it when i go to bed if that makes sense and if not is there anyway i can.

Performing any WILD technique when first going to sleep is not recommended. Even if you succeed (which is possible), its generally a low quality, short lucid. If you aren't wanting to perform WBTB, I suggest WILDing during day time naps. It is a great way to WILD (my personal favorite). Try napping 1-8 hours after waking in the morning for best results.

Well that sucks im going to try drinking lots of water before bed then.

I"ll try this during my nap right now and post the results later. The trouble is most of the time I try to WILD I get hesitant because I can't seem to enter sp, but this time I"ll at leat try to enter sp it"ll give me a boost of confidence. And I was wondering is sp basically a scissor lock? I u know what a scissor lock is

While I was trying to go into sp, it felt as if my shirt around my chest hot heavier does this mean anything?

Well, often times just prior to/during SP, you get a feeling of heaviness. Sometimes it is simply a deep state of relaxation and other times it is an actual hallucination brought on by SP. Either way, that is one step closer to having success. Just keep practicing and try to get a little further along in the process with each attempt. You are definately on the right track.

PS: To answer your question before, the SP process/transition is generally unique to each individual dreamer and is often unique with each experience. Though many experiences have common/similar effects. Your body will enter a state of paralysis (you won't be able to move your body until it is broken). You will generally (not all the time) experience HH/HI (hypnagogic hallucinations/imagery). The HI/HH will usually be unique with each experience. I've heard the term scissor lock before, and to my knowledge (I'm not 100% sure), it is just a slang/alternate term for SP.

I may have a solution for those of you who just end up falling asleep when attempting a wild, or this technique. Actually I am surprised that no one else has mentioned it, but I actually use the application timer for my computer and set it to beep 3 times every 15 minutes. This can vary to every 30 minutes, or once an hour, or whatever you like... This works because if you fall asleep while trying to WILD, you are woken back up 15,30,45, or 1 hour later. Then you can just give it another shot. The good thing about this is you will get multiple chances to try it again. The second great thing about this is that you will be able to get into SP much faster when having just woke up already.. I think this is a really good solution for those of you who keep falling asleep and missing your opportunity, and waking up 3 hours later let down.. If you find that you fall asleep within 10 minutes, set your timer for every 15 minutes, or for every 30 minutes.

The only downfall to this is that if you succeed in having a Lucid Dream, you may be awoken from it with your next interval alarm, the upside is that you will have yet another chance to try the process again, having your 2nd LD this session, and getting even more practice experiencing the transition states.. the more you experience these things the easier the whole process will get for you..

Here is the Application Timer for your computer. Courtesy of Lucidology 101.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YSFJEL3S

Originally Posted by atkins513

I may have a solution for those of you who just end up falling asleep when attempting a wild, or this technique. Actually I am surprised that no one else has mentioned it, but I actually use the application timer for my computer and set it to beep 3 times every 15 minutes. This can vary to every 30 minutes, or once an hour, or whatever you like... This works because if you fall asleep while trying to WILD, you are woken back up 15,30,45, or 1 hour later. Then you can just give it another shot. The good thing about this is you will get multiple chances to try it again. The second great thing about this is that you will be able to get into SP much faster when having just woke up already.. I think this is a really good solution for those of you who keep falling asleep and missing your opportunity, and waking up 3 hours later let down.. If you find that you fall asleep within 10 minutes, set your timer for every 15 minutes, or for every 30 minutes.

The only downfall to this is that if you succeed in having a Lucid Dream, you may be awoken from it with your next interval alarm, the upside is that you will have yet another chance to try the process again, having your 2nd LD this session, and getting even more practice experiencing the transition states.. the more you experience these things the easier the whole process will get for you..

Here is the Application Timer for your computer. Courtesy of Lucidology 101.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YSFJEL3S

This is good advice man, I'm gonna try it out.

So Im going to try this tonight Thank you KingYoshi I actually believe I will have success tonight...Considering I can already just lay there and see dream Scapes this should be fairly easy plus the success rate of this seems high...now to look over directions.

Thanks for the tips, I finally got into SP then into HI (and heard some great music too ha ha) but I'm not sure if I fell asleep or woke up after that, it was kind of a blur, but I'm going to try again tonight.

Hi Yoshi,

I was wondering: do you use Reverse Blinking every time you try to WILD?

I read somewhere that it becomes less effective after a while.

Earlier in this thread, KingYoshi had asked another member what reverse blinking was, after that user had suggested it be added into the tutorial. You might want to seek them out rather than Yoshi.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

Hi Yoshi,

I was wondering: do you use Reverse Blinking every time you try to WILD?

I read somewhere that it becomes less effective after a while.

I don't actually. I only use reverse blinking ever now and then when I have trouble getting to sleep. Because I rarely have trouble falling asleep (almost never ), I don't use it very often. I will say that it has definately worked well for me every time I've used it, but I can't comment on repeated use.