Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

I'm experimenting with this technique aswell. I go to bed at about 23:30 and set my alarms at 5:00, 6:00 and 7:00 (I get normally wake at 7:30).

The alarm jolted me awake twice on the first night and I slept through the third one.

Second night yielded some progress: I woke up without moving and was quite conscious of what I was doing. However I got excited which resulted in me being a little bit too awake. I fell asleep again pretty quickly though but didn't get any SP. Same thing happened after the second and third alarm so I tried a normal WILD instead (with not much result).

Going to try this tonight at the same intervals again (seems to be working). Since this is the third night trying I hope I can master my excitement/thoughts a bit after waking up.

Originally Posted by Sydney

I think I have an idea on what I could do once I achieve a CAN-WILD.

I'll do the CAN-WILD tech at exactly 6 hours after I've fallen asleep.
If that fails, then I'll do a WBTB and attempt at a WILD.
Then I might add an extra alarm an hour before I wake up in the morning.

Does that sound like too much in one night?

I tried 6 hours alarms before, I get too awake and can't do my techniques, like the FILD/CAN-WILD. I usually set one for 3 hours and another one for 4:30 hours.

Originally Posted by Romansp

Well, last night was interesting anyways. I set my alarm for 3:30 and managed to wake up to it, but my throught was so dry that it was causing me severe pain. I decided that I really did need a drink, and I felt much better after I drank a glass of water, but it still caused a failed attempt.
I returned to bed and tryed a regular WBTB WILD, which failed after about 2 minutes because of low sleep.
Interestingly, it appears that I managed to become lucid through a DILD. The only problem is that I forgot about 90% of it, except for this scene about flying above the ocean, which was right before I woke up anyways.

I'd call this attempt failed. Sure, I got a lucid dream, but it wasn't CAN-WILD and I'm really only interested in WILDs (After hearing about the insanely vivid dreams they bring you).

BTW, are CAN-WILDs anywhere near the vivid level of real-life generally?

Hey, I skipped over most of this thread but I found it interesting that your dream sounds kinda like mine. I had a lucid dream this morning that ended with me flying over (well, more like into xD) the ocean. I posted it to my DJ. Anyway, this is relevant because there was a moment in the dream that I focused on the surroundings and it seemed, to me, to reach that real-life vividness (which is VERY rare for me, by the way. This might be the first time ever). It stopped when I moved on with the dream, but it was quite an experience anyways. I now have a new goal to try to attain that vividness more often. I'm rambling a bit, I know. But the point is, if a DILD can reach real-life vividness, I'm sure a CAN-WILD can.

As for the method itself, I want to try it but I think I'd wake up my roommate, and I don't want to do that. Also, I'm likely to either wake up too much and not fall back asleep, or not wake up enough. In any case, I won't be able to set an alarm. However, if I know I have to wake up at a certain time, I'm very likely to wake up a few minutes early. It's actually pretty rare for me to hear my alarm go off, because I shut it off before it gets the chance. I'm thinking that maybe if I set the intention to get up a bit earlier (like 8:00 instead of 9), that will be enough. Then I just have to remember to actually stay still! Most wild methods don't work for me because no matter how long I lay there, I only get a partial SP or numbness, and I never experience HI. Perhaps this method will skip that. We'll see!

I´m going for it tonight.

I explained in my previous comment that I got scared of SP and moved. Also while I was laying there for that short 2 seconds, I was wondering what should I do while I wait for the SP to come. (If I have missed this in the tut, I'm sorry) So, what should I do while waiting for it?

Originally Posted by Sydney

I explained in my previous comment that I got scared of SP and moved. Also while I was laying there for that short 2 seconds, I was wondering what should I do while I wait for the SP to come. (If I have missed this in the tut, I'm sorry) So, what should I do while waiting for it?

Visualize something, with tactile sensations, and visual.

Oh yeah. My bad. I remember now.

Originally Posted by dfault01

Here's another idea for an alarm- I don't have a laptop or a PC in my bedroom so this works for me. If you have a cell phone with SMS (texting) service and a google account (like gmail) you can set an event with Google Calendar for when you want the alarm to go off. Turn on the SMS reminder for the event and make sure it's set properly- I usually go with 1 minute before. You can also set multiple reminders within the same event for several alarms.

Thus, you will recieve a text at the set time and your custom alarm noise becomes whatever you have set as your text message ringtone. Unless you have your phone set to remind you at intervals that you have a new message, it'll only go off once, and you're free to enter your dream without having to move

I don't text a whole lot, so I usually don't have to worry about people contacting me throughout the night. If you have to silence your phone at night or turn it off this might not be a good idea... google calendar is very basic and easy to use.. Hope this helps someone

That really does help,..a lot! Many thanks! I'd never heard of Google Calendar before, and I think for that your post is just as useful as CrazyInSane's first post (well, to me anyway!). My tape machine mangled the cassette I was using, so needed something to replace it without having to go purchasing iPods and Laptops just for this one simple thing.
Was going to buy an MP3 alarm clock radio, but I'll put that aside for now until I see more product reviews.

I've been lurking around this thread for quite a long time(months) and I've been getting a few good LD results. I don't like giving everyone the usual could've, should've and the "nearly dids". However, I think you do eventually get to know your own mind and ways of achieving through determination and gentle persistence....

Thanks again dfault01, cheers!

Well Singularity, that certainly motivates me; knowing that you had a similar lucid dream to mine, with high vividness. Perhaps you're right, if a DILD can feel as vivid as real life, CAN-WILD can probably do wonders.

I believe that, if you wake up without an alarm clock by setting the intention to, then the technique itself should be classified as a DEILD.

I keep falling asleep after waking up, so for my next attempt, I think I'll try turning the sound up higher, and setting the alarm to play for 10 seconds instead of 5.

Well, mines were pretty real, not the best I have had, but it was a nap and short lived.

I do the same, Romansp. I fall asleep as soon I wake up from the alarm. My alarms play for 30 or 20 seconds on max volume.

Well, no results.
I set the alarm for 3:15am.
I woke up naturally (ugh) at 2:55.. which really ticked me off. So I reset the alarm to 3:45. I layed back down in bed, and kept tossing and turning. I just couldn't go back to sleep. I think it was because I came in contact with the computer. So I closed my laptop and gave up.
Tonight I think I'm going to do the same thing again.

Originally Posted by Romansp

Well Singularity, that certainly motivates me; knowing that you had a similar lucid dream to mine, with high vividness. Perhaps you're right, if a DILD can feel as vivid as real life, CAN-WILD can probably do wonders.

I believe that, if you wake up without an alarm clock by setting the intention to, then the technique itself should be classified as a DEILD.

I keep falling asleep after waking up, so for my next attempt, I think I'll try turning the sound up higher, and setting the alarm to play for 10 seconds instead of 5.

Heh, well I'm glad I could motivate you. My attempt didn't go so well, though. I was too excited I guess, because I woke up naturally about an hour earlier than I wanted to. That left me groggy and basically ruined my chances, even though I did get back to sleep. The main thing I need to suppress is the instinct to look at the clock every time I wake up! Sometimes, like today, starting around 8:30 I pull myself out of a drowsy state every couple minutes to look at the clock. I'm too worried I'll sleep through my alarm, or that it won't go off, I guess. I know I could do something with that drowsy half-asleep state if I can just make myself stay in bed! xD Well, there's always tomorrow, I guess. Although if I'm too tired, Saturday might be better.

Originally Posted by Watchman

Thanks again dfault01, cheers!

No problem, good luck with it.. Just keep in mind how many texts you get- they add up fast! I think I get something like 500 free non-verizon texts each month, which seems like plenty. But they're probably like $.25 each after that

I still can't get this tech to work.. Usually what happens is I'll wake up shortly after the alarm noise goes off, without remembering hearing it.. Which I assume just means I wasn't in REM sleep. Either way, I'll get out of bed to grab some juice or something and go back to bed, doing lots of RCs. Waking up increases awareness for the dreams to come in the next few hours.. and therefore increases the chances of a DILD, right?

I wanna get one of those nifty sleep cycle monitors but as far as I know they're really expensive.

No results tonight either.
I set my alarm for 3:30, then went to bed.
Then I woke up at 12 something (like I have been for some reason the last 2 attempts)
I went back to bed. And guess what I woke up at.
3:28.
How in the world does this happen all the time!?
Oh well, I'll try again tonight. Anyone know of a solution for this? (waking up right before your alarm)

You can try setting the alarm earlier in the day so that you forget about it at night. But then you have to train yourself not to move when it goes off.

What worked for me is to every other day set your alarm for + or - 15-45 mins earlier or later.

Once again, no real results. But, the quick awareness added to my advantage.

I set one alarm for 3:30. I went to bed at about 9:15 ish. I woke up before my alarm again (ugh); maybe at about 3:00.
So I tried to go back to sleep, but couldn't fall asleep for some reason; and I heard my alarm. After I heard it, I rolled over and went back to sleep.
I woke up at about 4:45, and realized I had had a lucid dream. I was excited, but did not write it down. Then I went back onto my laptop and changed my alarm for 5:30. I got back in bed and tried to fall asleep. I just could not go to sleep. Then I heard my 5:30 alarm. (dangit) So I just gave up and tried to go back to sleep.

I guess I could try setting it to 3:30 earlier in the day so I will forget about it. I don't think I'm used to waking up after 6 hours; I think I'm used to waking up after 5.

What was weird was: Part of my lucid dream was almost like a "commercial" where a lady sold alarm clocks for 28$ each ring. (Talk about expensive)

You seem to go to bed very early, 9:15. Try setting alarms for like 1:15, 2:35, 3:40.

I was able to get into SP last night before falling asleep. I just wanted to try a new method which seemed to work. Not only did I keep my mind busy by thinking about my dreams and stuff, but I focused on the air purifier in my room which helped me realize when I was falling asleep and how to keep focused on it. No LD's tho, will keep trying.

Had another Lucid Dream friday morning! It can be read about (along with the other dreams I had that night) in my dream journal, but I used this technique throughout the night whenever I woke up so maybe it's working!

I tried it yesterday night an hour before I was supposed to wake but I opened my eyes a teeny bit so SP went away.

To anyone with the app "alarm clock pro" add this WAV file to your music directory, go to the app, make your alarm, select music, and select this one. Then go to advanced options and touch "fade in 1 minute"
volume on max.

the WAV file

the file is 1min 15secs long, and the alarm is only for the first 5 seconds, it will fade after a minute, and you won't hear anything.

I have been attempting this tech almost every night for the past 3 weeks, and I've either slept through my alarm or woken up before it.
However, I have heard it and woken up to it and lied still. But, the first time was when I got scared; and the second was when I opened my eyes a teeny bit.
Any tips guys? I might try to put my laptop across the room so the sound won't jolt me awake; and I'm not sure what I'll do about waking up before it.

You wake up because of your expectation. You set the alarm with the intent of waking up, so you wake up before the alarm or close the time it'll go off, happens a lot to me, to counter this, try setting lots of alarms, one of them will work, I usually set one at each 1:20 hours, on weekdays 2 or 3 alarms only.
The best time I found to work with this technique is at afternoon naps, I didn't got it to work at night, I always forget the technique and sleep again haha; autosuggestion may fix this.