Thread: Why You Fail at WILDs

Originally Posted by GMoney

I had this same problem, and what's been working for me is to put my phone on vibrate and leave the phone under my pillow. I'm not sure if your brother will be able to hear it, but you should try it out to see if he does. Ideally you'll awake from the vibrations rather than a loud noise.

Edit: My first quote!!

Yeah I have a rather embarising story about alarms and pillows.... Last time I tried that I woke up in the morning with a broken fingernail, a hole torn in my pillow case, and my iPod on the shelf. Apparently I can't work a pillow case in my sleep.

Well here's what happened last night.

From 9:00-10:00 PM I drank way to much. I probably drank 4 glasses of water. I had eaten some really salty peanuts so I was thirsty. I fell asleep around 10:20 PM. I woke up at approximately 12:12 AM. I did several RCs to make sure I wasn't having a FA. After pissing I laid down in my bed, mostly laying on my back. Although I was a little bit tilted to the right. Anyway after around 3 min I fell asleep and wasn't aware. I woke up at around 7:12 AM.

That was my attempt. I'm thinking keeping a WILD journal of my attempts might help. Tonight I'm thinking less water and laying on my right side. But at least I woke up. It's a small victory, but a victory none the less.

After I wrote this I gave up on sleeping. It's one of those nights.


Night of January 4th 2010
Three glasses of water between 9:30 and 10:45 PM
Laid down at 10:52 PM woke up around 11:48 PM for an unknown reason.
Laid back down at 12:13 AM
I'm having trouble sleeping for some reason. I just going to read DV until I am more tired. I don't know if tonight is going to be successful. But never the less I won't give up.
I drank a glass of water.*
Laid back down at 1:53 AM I have about the same urge to urinate as I did the first night. Now if only I could sleep.
At around 2:10 AM I gave up and pissed. I think it's harder for me to fall asleep because I'm not super tired. Last night I was so tired the urge to piss didn't keep me awake. If I don't wake up later at least I have tomorrow.

I have never had a Wild before so this is how far I got last night using some of this advice. I go to bed and I try to make my mind go blank focus on breathing sometimes ill have random thoughts and then go back to focusing on just trying to fall asleep. After laying down in my bed for some time 30 plus mins I fell as if my body is going to sleep a little bit but I know if I wanted I could move it. Like some people say you get a strong urge to roll over but I never feel any physical urges. After speeding even more time laying down I feel as if my minds focus has shifted slightly. It is not a sudden shift but I notice my focus being slightly different. After I am in this different focus I do not know what to do I seem very alert mentally but I am slightly mentally uncomfortable im not really sure on how to explain this feeling. The best I can do is I feel trapped in my mind and unable to fall asleep at all, but I know if I move i will disrupt this process. It is very annoying and I end up moving so I can go to sleep and am afraid if I don't move I will spend the whole night awake.

branpera, you can't do it at night. The thing with WILDing is that you need to have a few hours of sleep under your belt before trying. Either set your alarm for 4-6 AM (or sometime around 4-6 hours after you fall asleep) or your could try doing it for an afternoon nap.

Oooo that makes sence but should I wake up totaly walk around or should I not move at all and fall back to sleep? Theses are two ways that I have read of. Does any one find ither way more sucessful?

Most people go to the bathroom and stuff after waking up. I just hope tonight I can pull off a WILD. Or atleast fall asleep.

Originally Posted by branpera

Does any one find ither way more sucessful?

Well, I'm not sure if this helps, but every WILD I've had so far have been during afternoon naps. Also, they seem to just happen when you aren't trying...at least for me.

Originally Posted by Zebrah

Most people go to the bathroom and stuff after waking up. I just hope tonight I can pull off a WILD. Or atleast fall asleep.

If you find yourself dealing with insomnia again, try to stay off the computer and don't use any bright lights; they can screw up your internal clock pretty badly. Do you have headphones? I've always find that lying down in bed, in a dark room, listening to relaxing music for a half hour or so is a great way to get sleepy again.

Originally Posted by TheOneirologist

Well, I'm not sure if this helps, but every WILD I've had so far have been during afternoon naps. Also, they seem to just happen when you aren't trying...at least for me.

Yeah, the not trying thing is the hardest part to replicate. It takes a certain mindset that can't be easily taught.

Great contribution Mzzkc.

Thank you kindly, Jeff. ^.^

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

If you find yourself dealing with insomnia again, try to stay off the computer and don't use any bright lights; they can screw up your internal clock pretty badly. Do you have headphones? I've always find that lying down in bed, in a dark room, listening to relaxing music for a half hour or so is a great way to get sleepy again.

I needed listen to my iPod just to fall asleep tonight. I failed this WILD because I was way to awake. I think the light in my bathroom is waking me up to much. Tomorrow night I'll try only turning on a dim light. Also tonight I was able to sleep almost 4 hours before waking up. Tomorrow I'm going to shoot for 6.

Thanks for all the help you have been Mzzkc. I'll continue posting if you continue helping

I managed to WILD this morning by accident after all my hard work. I hadn't slept since around 1 AM and finally I got so tired I laid down to sleep. But I had a WILD

This entire WILD I have trouble moving. Dream control isn't my forte I suppose.

All the sudden I'm dreaming. I can't move I'm not entirely sure what's going on. I feel quite disoriented. My little brother and his friend come and push the chair I'm sitting in, into the wall. I'm crashing into the wall. I close my eyes and tell myself that when I open them I will be in a city about to get struck by lightning (task of the month) when I open my eyes I see the living room. I try again again but I feel like I'm falling. When I open my eyes I'm floating. I try to fly a bit but fall and wake up.


Apparently it is just as simple as falling asleep. Mzzkc you are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you.

I was under the impression that you should be laying on your back, is this true that its the best way to have a WILD? I am totaly comfortable on my back its just that im not able to fall asleep on my back.

Originally Posted by branpera

I was under the impression that you should be laying on your back, is this true that its the best way to have a WILD? I am totaly comfortable on my back its just that im not able to fall asleep on my back.

The way you are comfortable and able sleep is the best. I laid on my right side and stomach last night.
Go to the wiki/user articles/Mzzkc's WILD guide. That's really helpful.

Congrats on getting a WILD, Zebrah! Nice job.

branpera, it doesn't matter what position you're in. Do whatever's most comfortable for you.

I read this last night, and I ended up WILDing after waking up around 5 and going back to sleep an hour later. I was lucid, but didn't try to control the dream.

Thanks G.

And congrats Krista.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Don't WILD.
"Lawl, wut?" What this means is that when making an attempt, the focus should be put on falling asleep, first and foremost. Don't try to recognize SP, don't do anything you wouldn't normally do to help yourself fall asleep.

This line right here is what got me my first successful WILD last night. I though "Sleep", then "WILD"
and during SP I totally just chilled and stayed calm
You are awesome
I owe you big time

Originally Posted by EmiryBel

This line right here is what got me my first successful WILD last night. I though "Sleep", then "WILD"
and during SP I totally just chilled and stayed calm
You are awesome
I owe you big time

I wish I would have been forced to read this when I joined lol. After all the time I put in to WILDing, t's really so easy.

Originally Posted by Zebrah

I wish I would have been forced to read this when I joined lol. After all the time I put in to WILDing, t's really so easy.

I've been trying for over a year and have never gotten a WILD to work. Maybe this will finally do the trick.

Congrats Zebrah, Krista, and Emiry!

I'm glad I could help you all out a bit. ^.^

And good luck to you, GMoney! Let me know if you need any advice, kay?

Mzzkc you helped out more than a bit. You helped out a ton. If you ever wanted to teach a WILD class at the DVA we are always looking for teachers.