Thread: Why You Fail at WILDs

Congrats!

Glad I could be of assistance. ^.^

This isn't exactly on topic, but does anyone know if CAN-WILDs work? I already know that attempting normal WILDs results in a loss of determination after 40 minutes to an hour for me. A WILD where you could skip the relaxation phase sounds great, but again, does it really work? I've tried it a few times but haven't found success yet.

It really depends on how the person reacts to the alarm. Too jarring and falling back asleep becomes difficult. The opposite results in less than ideal levels of awareness. Finding the right alarm system is the deciding factor in whether that technique will work for you or not.

Thank you. I had my first WILD this morning.
I was trying very hard, that was my mistake.

I'm on a right path now.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by dlucid

Thank you. I had my first WILD this morning.
I was trying very hard, that was my mistake.

I'm on a right path now.

Thanks again.

Mine too -- I need to loosen up I tried last night but loosened up too much and went back to sleep. There's a right balance that needs to be achieved.

Remember when I said I accidentially WILDed? Well, it happened again!

I had just gotten home from an appointment, and I was really tired, so I stayed in the passenger seat and closed my eyes. A while later, I felt the same pulsing as before. Every now and then it would fade, but then I'd relax a little and I would come back. This happened a few times, but I eventually went into the dream. I'm not sure what, but something happened and the dream transitioned to me on the couch trying to WILD (I'd lost awareness). Then somehow the dream transitioned back to me in the car, and now I knew it was a dream, or at least suspected it. This is the most irritating part: I wanted to reality check, but I couldn't move, just like before! I tried verbally commanding my hands to move, but it didn't work, and then I woke up. Able to move again, I reality checked, and I was awake.

I'm about to take a nap without focusing on WILDing to see if it'll happen again. How do I overcome the in-dream paralysis?

Hmmm... it's just how to stay just aware enough whilest falling asleep. I still need to work on that one.

As Billybob suggested, I tried pain, but can never get in a position that's actually slightly painful without numbing that part of my body -_- I tried temperature aswell, but that didn't work either.

Any suggestions? I'm still wrapping my head around this It's very simple I know, I think that's why I find it so hard to take in/ really understand.

Originally Posted by TheOneirologist

How do I overcome the in-dream paralysis?

Sheer strength of will is typically how I do it.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Any suggestions? I'm still wrapping my head around this It's very simple I know, I think that's why I find it so hard to take in/ really understand.

I explain the anchor thing a little better in my other guide, and offer some suggestions there, but there are literally hundreds of things you can use. For instance, vibrating watches/alarms/phones, socks on/off, gloves even, are all capable of becoming anchors. And then there are internal way to keep yourself tied to the waking world, but it's really hard to recommended any one thing since I have no idea what will work well for you and what won't.

I think I'm finally beginning to figure out WILDing. During a nap today I had a third burst of SP (however, I was way too tired to think of taking advantage of it...too bad), and as usual, it was unintentional. I've noticed that recently, any plain nap that I take can lead to SP if it's long enough (I also think that background noises are a good anchor for me---they keep me aware without me even knowing it). After thinking about this, I remembered one of the rules for doing WILDs...

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

4. Don't WILD.

I didn't realize it until now, but that is completely true, and now I've finally found a way to get WILDs. I'm going to try to take regular naps to attempt this more (plus I need the sleep). Now all I really have to do to be on my way is overcome the in-dream paralysis.

Thank you, Mzzkc!

Good Luck Oneirologist.

Mzzkc, seriously, thank you so much!

I had always had this aspect of it somewhere in my head - that actually falling asleep is the biggest thing to focus on. Everything you have said all seem to tie up with everytime I have had a WILD.

I sense this has helped me greatly.

Chur! ("Thanks" in New Zealand )

Happy I could help!

Your story parallels mine pretty closely, but only to the point where you had a successful WILD. I still haven't had one yet, but hopefully this guide will help me.

Good luck to you!

Feel free to keep us updated on your progress

And don't forget I'm always available to field an outstanding question or two, if the need arises.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Good luck to you!

Feel free to keep us updated on your progress

And don't forget I'm always available to field an outstanding question or two, if the need arises.

Well I'm having some trouble. When ever I try to WILD I can never fall back asleep again. I try even after I have given up the WILD attempt. Do you have any advice for my issue?

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Originally Posted by Zebrah

Well I'm having some trouble. When ever I try to WILD I can never fall back asleep again. I try even after I have given up the WILD attempt. Do you have any advice for my issue?

I have the same problem sometimes. It's just a bought of insomnia, easily cured by a good book or music played at moderate to low volumes. Distance yourself from sleep and WILDing as much as you can; your body will pull you back in on its own.

Thanks I'll try that. Another issue I have is alarms. I share a room with my brother so I can't use alarms. Do you have any solutions to that? I really want to try and WILD tonight.

Construct an elaborate Rube Goldberg machine using dominoes, several bowling balls, and possibly a ladder, that, at a specific time, will quietly activate, dropping something on your head like a bucket of water or a muzzled rooster.

Alternatively, drink something before bed. Your bladder will do the rest.

I like the Rube Goldberg idea. And if I piss myself I'll kill you.

Lol, don't drink too much. Just enough that you'll be uncomfortable and wanting to use the restroom several hours later.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Lol, don't drink too much. Just enough that you'll be uncomfortable and wanting to use the restroom several hours later.

Thanks for your help. I need to reread this thread to make sure I have all of your wisdom in my head. My only two WILDs have been short and fairly lame. But if I can consistently WILD I'm going to be so happy. Lucidity is so much fun but I'm just not that good at sticking to things. If you have any tips you've been holding back now would be the time to post them lol.

Originally Posted by Zebrah

Thanks for your help. I need to reread this thread to make sure I have all of your wisdom in my head. My only two WILDs have been short and fairly lame. But if I can consistently WILD I'm going to be so happy. Lucidity is so much fun but I'm just not that good at sticking to things. If you have any tips you've been holding back now would be the time to post them lol.

I'm more than happy to help. =)

If I think of anything else that isn't common knowledge, or already out there somewhere, I'll be sure to share it.

I'll be sure to give you an update. Weather it's after the WILD, Waking up because I fell asleep and wasnt aware, or because I didn't sleep. I just hope I wake up lol.