Thread: What happened? Post Your WILD Attempts, Good or Bad, Here

Originally Posted by Sageous

Good choice, and good instincts, I think! Oh, and did you, um, make sure later that no one was standing by your bed?

Nobody was home at that time, so not possible that anyone could have been standing by my bed.

I wouldn't bother opening your eyes, for the reason you cite -- it could definitely set you back. And if you think about it, you do not open your eyes normally when doing RC's, so would it make sense to do so here? I don't think so; it seems like it would screw up the RC as well as the WILD...

So how would you go about realising that I've made the transition into a dream without opening your eyes? I've never been able to pick up on the fact that I'm dreaming after a DEILD unless I've opened my eyes, although I realise that WILDs are slightly more delicate.

Originally Posted by RareCola

Nobody was home at that time, so not possible that anyone could have been standing by my bed.

... Well there it is then!

So how would you go about realising that I've made the transition into a dream without opening your eyes? I've never been able to pick up on the fact that I'm dreaming after a DEILD unless I've opened my eyes, although I realise that WILDs are slightly more delicate.

I'm not sure I understand you, RareCola. Since in a dream you have no actual eyes to open, what are you opening?

For me, a dream will form, images and all, with no regard to whether my eyes are open or closed. With (successful) WILDs, including DEILDs, you are fully aware that the world into which you are emerging is a dream. What else could it be? The exception to this of course is a false awakening, especially with DEILD, but doesn't a FA imply that consciousness was lost and you're switching from WILD to DILD?

I think I'm saying too much, because I have a feeling I missed something obvious. Bottom line, I guess, is this: you should have no trouble knowing you made the transition to the dream without even considering your eyes. If you have eyes to open, and they do so, then I think you're either still awake, or in a FA .

Let me know what I missed!

Originally Posted by Sageous

... Well there it is then!



I'm not sure I understand you, RareCola. Since in a dream you have no actual eyes to open, what are you opening?

For me, a dream will form, images and all, with no regard to whether my eyes are open or closed. With (successful) WILDs, including DEILDs, you are fully aware that the world into which you are emerging is a dream. What else could it be? The exception to this of course is a false awakening, especially with DEILD, but doesn't a FA imply that consciousness was lost and you're switching from WILD to DILD?

I think I'm saying too much, because I have a feeling I missed something obvious. Bottom line, I guess, is this: you should have no trouble knowing you made the transition to the dream without even considering your eyes. If you have eyes to open, and they do so, then I think you're either still awake, or in a FA .

Let me know what I missed!

The thing is, I do have actual eyes in a dream.

I know it's very weird, but I'll post examples of two of my previous DEILDs so you know what I'm experiencing:

Spoiler for Dreams:

#1 - I was laying in bed after a DILD, recalling the experience. My eyes were closed and I wasn't particularly seeing any HI or anything but at one point the sheets that I felt over me seemed to just fade away and my body became really light, almost like I was hovering above my bed. There was no lapse of consciousness at all, and I could still see the blackness behind my eyelids at this point. I opened my eyes and I was still laying in bed with the sheets over me, but I couldn't feel any of it. I looked over to my clock and all the numbers were freaking out, changing sporadically. I double checked by lifting up my hands and sure enough I had 7 fingers. I lifted myself out of bed and had one of the most vivid lucid dreams I've ever had, I truly understood that everything was a creation of myself and that I was inside of a dream, it felt even beyond reality.

#2 - Awoken from a non-lucid dream this time. Laying in bed when I see vague HI in the darkness of my eyelids of a small character, putting on clothing to "gear up" for lucidity. This was while I was counting from 0 to 10. When I reached 10 the small character had finished gearing up, I opened my eyes and I was inside my bathroom, lucid. After waking from this experience I DEILD chained into another lucid, getting the same "gearing up character" experience but this time when I opened my eyes, I was outside in the same place from where my previous lucid dream ended.

This is the problem, I never really seem to get much of a signal that I transition, there's never much that happens behind my eyes, all I generally see is blackness with some possible vague HI. It's only when I open my eyes that I can really see a dream world, unlike your experience where it forms from the blackness that you see.

I tried WILD this morning. Everytime I felt the noise coming on strong my heart would start racing. I knew that once I got over the hump it would all fall into place. But my excitement took away my momentum and I was back to square one. After what seemed like forever I decided to give up. I RCd just in case and looked at the clock it was only 30min. I did happen to have a couple DILDs and a Brief DEILD after that so not all was lost. My question is how do I over come the excitement? I know its just noise and not a stage or mile marker and I should ignore it but my DEILDs are always straight in SP. Which brings another question. Why are DEILDs so much easier for me? It's almost second nature. When I time it right of course.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I tried WILD this morning. Everytime I felt the noise coming on strong my heart would start racing. I knew that once I got over the hump it would all fall into place. But my excitement took away my momentum and I was back to square one. After what seemed like forever I decided to give up. I RCd just in case and looked at the clock it was only 30min. I did happen to have a couple DILDs and a Brief DEILD after that so not all was lost. My question is how do I over come the excitement?

You do this by continuing what you are already doing: recognize the things that get you excited and, over much time, gradually assimilate those things into your routine as just more noise and certainly nothing to get excited about. It takes a while, especially if you're excited to distraction right out of the chutes, but stay with it, because you're already doing the right things (or perhaps at least thinking bout them, at this stage). In the meantime, you've still got an active DILD and DEILD life, so the LD's are coming somehow, regardless...

I know its just noise and not a stage or mile marker and I should ignore it but my DEILDs are always straight in SP. Which brings another question. Why are DEILDs so much easier for me? It's almost second nature. When I time it right of course.

They're easier, I think, because DEILD bypasses the distracting noise, it can happen very quickly, and you can use existing dream residue rather than spend time and psychic energy producing a dream. And yes, with experience, DEILD's literally become second nature, because over time your expectations become trained to "assume" DEILD's will happen at a particular time, so it takes very little effort to make the transition... at least, that's what I've experienced (DEILD is my preferred LD'ing tool, BTW -- though in full disclosure I was doing it long before the term was invented, so I'm not sure I ever "learned" the technique ... I just naturally knew it -- go figure).