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      Thanks, that was great! Good stuff Nayia. A few questions. Feel free to ignore any that you've already answered elsewhere on the forum, or that you simply don't have the energy or interest to answer.

      You said you have about 7 dreams a night. Do you remember them all in the morning? Or do you wake up briefly after each one?

      Has lucid dreaming had an effect on your daily life? Does the ability to fulfill all your desires in your dream life make you less interested in your daily life?

      I liked the advice you gave about separating the ethereal body from the physical body during SP. About a month ago after attending meditation class (satsang) the night before I woke up in the morning, went back to sleep, and then started hearing music in my head. I knew it was dream music. It was pitch black but I started moving my non physical arms around. I could feel them moving but I couldn't see them. They felt more like "me" then my physical arms do. It was incredible! (It's so weird how I've been having all these mini lucid dreaming breakthroughs simply from reading ETWOLD and reading the forum etc.) My biggest block seems to be fear. I've long been into Advaita/Zen and self inquiry. Asking the profound question "who am I". Many teachers say our true nature is pure awareness. Often when I become lucid, I become aware that it's all in my head and that I don't really have a body. It freaks me out and I wake up right away. I think it's a fear of nothingness/emptiness. It's as if I want to wake up and get grounded in my physical body and be back in daily reality. Can you relate to any of this? You mentioned having some fear with SP. How did you break through your fear?

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      Hey Zenman,

      I am a very light sleeper--I can only remember sleeping a full 7-8 hours straight maybe twice in my life. I usually sleep about 2-4 hours, then wake up naturally, then wake up after every subsequent sleep cycle (30-90 minutes). I always wake up at the end of a dream, so it's easy to remember them. I don't write them all down every night--usually just the ones that really stuck with me, and the lucids. But before I go back to sleep, I'll jot down a couple of sentences describing the dream to jog my memory in the morning.

      It's funny you mention fear of emptiness/nothingness. For a long time I was afraid of seeing oceans in dreams, even lucids, because I associated the ocean with death--and what I fear most about death is the possibility of emptiness, nothingness, eternity, ect. Existing in some for or another for an eternity is just as scary as oblivion. They both pretty much seem the same.

      I'm not entirely over it, but I don't panic at the sight of the ocean or space anymore; I can feel peaceful looking into them.

      When it comes to SP, I think it's just like any other new experience--the more times you do it, the less scary it gets. For me, if there were scary hallucinations, when I figured out that I could control or change them, it was like "oh!" Also, since I learned to use SP to WILD, even though it can be a bit startling when it first starts I'm happy because I know I'm about to WILD.
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      Thanks for your reply Naiya, you're an awesome dream guide. I'll probably have more questions for you in the future.

      ZM

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      The best guide i have ever read. MAD PROPS!

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      Thanks.

      And yeah, if you guys ever have any more questions you can post them here or PM me.

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      Amazing guide!

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      WOW I just found this thread and im goin to try the WILD technique tonight

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      Not many messages of actual success in this thread so I figured I'd post mine. After 2 days of using (mostly) Naiya's DILD technique (mainly the part about Autosuggestion, specifically doing it during a WBTB as well) I was able to have my best Lucid Dream to date. If not the technique, then at least the motivation it provided was very helpful.

      Thank you Naiya.
      The music is always playing...

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      Yay! I'm so glad it helped you.

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      Thanks!!!! That was everything you need in one place!!
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      What a great tutorial! Many thanks Naiya

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      Hey, how long do I need to meditate before I get to that "continuous reality check" stage? I think that's going to be my new goal
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      I had a lucid dream last night using the autosuggestion tutorial from this thread. I woke up in the middle of the night, stayed away for about 5 minutes and laid down again. After clearing my mind I just kept repeating to myself "I will be lucid when I begin dreaming." and sure enough, I remember seeing a room and "Lucid dream" popping up in big white letters, I did a reality check, gained lucidity, and ............. woke up :p

      Oh well, it's a good start.

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      Quote Originally Posted by A dreamer168 View Post
      Hey, how long do I need to meditate before I get to that "continuous reality check" stage? I think that's going to be my new goal
      Realistically? It depends on the person, but it is a long term goal to have that constant awareness. So think months or years.


      Quote Originally Posted by Exdream View Post
      I had a lucid dream last night using the autosuggestion tutorial from this thread. I woke up in the middle of the night, stayed away for about 5 minutes and laid down again. After clearing my mind I just kept repeating to myself "I will be lucid when I begin dreaming." and sure enough, I remember seeing a room and "Lucid dream" popping up in big white letters, I did a reality check, gained lucidity, and ............. woke up :p

      Oh well, it's a good start.
      Yay! Well congrats on the lucid! I'm sorry you woke up before you could so anything, though...that still happens to me every once in a while, but the only way to get around the problem is to just practice getting lucid, then relaxing and calming yourself enough to make sure the dream keeps stable before moving on to fun stuff.

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      Every word was absolutely dillicious! Thank you for putting this together!
      "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

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      Wow, that helps me clear things up a bit. Thanks! And thank you for taking the time to write it!

      Now I'm sure of having my first lucid tonight!

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      Thank you so much Naiya!

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      This is great!!! I am definatly trying these methods, as I haven't been overly successful in the past. Here goes nothing! hahaha.
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      Wow... I'm blown away! You should make a book or something! You wouldn't have any problems with filling at least 100 small pages with this!
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      Thank you so much Naiya, I've just woken up from my first lucid dream in months after reading all of that last night!

      When I woke up after a short non lucid, I tried your WILD technique but I just couldn't get to SP using it. I'm not good at judging time but I would guess I laid there at least 10-15 minutes without any results both times I tried. However, after spending that much time trying and not getting any results I stopped trying and just fell asleep.

      After thinking about it, I remember the dream began with me waking up in some random house but the real vivid lucid part began in a superstore much like Wallmart. From there it spiraled into the most epic LD I've had in years. To me, it seems to have unfolded much like a movie and felt just about as long. It had an introduction (Getting used to the powers I 'had' and showing off to one random individual), a problem (Someone I know is missing! People are worried!), and an epic finale (People with powers are guarding her!? Damn you Mr. Ponytail!).

      Thanks again for your tutorial and insight on how to RC better. I know it'll help me again in the future.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
      Thank you so much Naiya, I've just woken up from my first lucid dream in months after reading all of that last night!

      When I woke up after a short non lucid, I tried your WILD technique but I just couldn't get to SP using it. I'm not good at judging time but I would guess I laid there at least 10-15 minutes without any results both times I tried. However, after spending that much time trying and not getting any results I stopped trying and just fell asleep.

      After thinking about it, I remember the dream began with me waking up in some random house but the real vivid lucid part began in a superstore much like Wallmart. From there it spiraled into the most epic LD I've had in years. To me, it seems to have unfolded much like a movie and felt just about as long. It had an introduction (Getting used to the powers I 'had' and showing off to one random individual), a problem (Someone I know is missing! People are worried!), and an epic finale (People with powers are guarding her!? Damn you Mr. Ponytail!).

      Thanks again for your tutorial and insight on how to RC better. I know it'll help me again in the future.
      Just out of interest Buddy, what specifically from the tutorial was of the greatest help?
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      If I had to pick any one, I'd say her fifth post was the most helpful. The post on reality checks was also very helpful.

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      Very well explained Naiya, Thank You
      There's a Whole New World On The Other Side

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      Did u mention anything about autosuggestion, Naiya?
      "do what you wish"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
      White noise really helps. I usually have a fan on all night. Try to focus your attention to the white noise. As you're falling asleep, do you notice any strange distortions in the sound? I usually almost hear faint music, or sometimes whispers. This is passive HI. What you want to do is actively control it now. This will get your mind into the state of lucidity AND dream control before you're even really asleep.
      Oh good. I have a fan in my room, though it's deffinately louder than a computer/ laptop fan. I will focus on it and try to change it to something

      Great tutorial

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