How can I WILD without having to mess up my sleep schedule?

**vterm** · 08-24-2010 09:24 PM

ok so I only get like 8 hours of sleep at night and I don't want to wake up in the middle of it just to lucid. I'm willingto take 30 minutes or so to fall asleep, but what is a good method to induce WILD when you go to bed besides lying still and taking deep breathes. thank you!

**Puffin** · 08-25-2010 01:22 AM

If you don't want to wake up in the middle of the night, you can always take a nap after 5 or 6 hours of waking up. If you're relaxed enough, it can be as easy as doing it during WBTB.

**vterm** · 08-25-2010 01:47 AM

I have a really busy work schedule during the day so I don't really have the time to nap or anything, but when I slip into my bed at night, I am extremely relaxed so that's not a problem. Sometimes as I half awake, half asleep, I can sorta visualize dreams really well, but that's only sometimes. I am looking for a way to keep my mind consciously aware as my body falls asleep, but not having to interrupt my regular sleep schedule. So if anyone has any effective methods for that, I would really appreciate it! Thanks!

**Puffin** · 08-25-2010 01:56 AM

It might be difficult for you to WILD, then, given the time constraints. WILDing right when you get into bed isn't recommended, because even if you're very relaxed it can take a while to enter SP. Also, right when you get into bed, you're not in a REM cycle, so it's unlikely you'd enter a dream. But good luck finding a method that works for you!

**vterm** · 08-25-2010 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Puffin

It might be difficult for you to WILD, then, given the time constraints. WILDing right when you get into bed isn't recommended, because even if you're very relaxed it can take a while to enter SP. Also, right when you get into bed, you're not in a REM cycle, so it's unlikely you'd enter a dream. But good luck finding a method that works for you!

well, out of curiosity, what do you find to be an EFFECTIVE and CONSISTENT way to go lucid? I have found a mixture of DILDing and MILDing to be really effective to create at least vivid dreams. What do you suggest?

**Puffin** · 08-25-2010 02:28 AM

DILDing with awareness is the most convenient way for me; if you're consistent enough with observation and awareness, seriously questioning whether you could be dreaming at times, it's a pretty good way to become lucid. I haven't been able to WILD in over half a year, so obviously WILDing hasn't helped me much.

**SystemsLock** · 08-25-2010 05:40 AM

Forget WILD. DEILD is just as good yet takes only half the effort. If you fail, only a few minutes are wasted, if you succeed it's just like WILD.

**vterm** · 08-25-2010 08:25 PM

ok, I have had one lucid dream, and that was few days ago. Since then, I have had ridiculous dreams, but I don't even think to RC. I have been MILDing because thats how i achieved lucidity, but I am thinking a mixture of DILDing and MILDing is the best thing to do. What do y'all think? I need a method to let me realize to do an RC, but i can't really afford to lose sleep, so none of that please. I had a semi dream construction when I did a variation of WILD. I laid still and breathed in 50 times slowly, then imagined a great amount of pain slowly throughout my body, then i took about 50 more deep breaths. Then i got a really big sense of spinning and vibration and i saw like a dream beginning in front of me, but i sorta freaked out and woke up. I did that with no loss of sleep or anything. I did it right when i went to bed around 10 at night. What do y'all think will do best to help me achieve lucidity again. Thanks so much in advance!