Thread: Giving up on attaining lucidity?

For the past couple days I have been inspired to finally figure out how to do WILD. I can successfully hit SP in minutes prior to falling asleep, but the problem is, I can't get past that point to hit the dream.
I sit up after I feel like the SP has gone usually after an hour, and do a RC and nothing seems abnormal like I'm in a lucid dream. What am I doing wrong, and,

Why do I feel like giving up right now, and that it is all a joke? I really believed in attaining lucid dreams, and it made me have a different perspective on my life. Until now, when I don't think I can do it.

Literally, forget WILD. WILD isn't something you do, it's something that happens. Once you become experienced enough recognizing your "flow" to sleep it'll eventually just... happen. When you try to force it yourself, for most people, you ruin it. This is why WILD is considered an advanced technique. The best thing you can do to practice is to simple observer your sleep "flow". Try to let your body fall asleep yet keep your mind active. If you feel like moving, move. If you usually sleep on your side, sleep on your side. Change nothing. After doing this daily for weeks you'll eventually realize you can keep your mind awake longer and longer until finally it just happens. It is no easy feet. In fact, I don't even suggest it. A very similar, yet much easier technique is DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream). I suggest you look up a tutorial.

Yea WILD gets so frustrating especially if you use it as your first technique. When I first attempted lucid dreaing, I tried to WILD for about two weeks and at the end it made me just want to give up. But if your getting into sp a lot, I'd say just keep trying. Look at the threads that teach you how to transition from sp into the dream. Maybe you can try and VILD because that was a little easier for me. But I think a lot of people who just start out, get drawn to the wild technique because its really crazy knowing that you can go from a waking state to a dream state, while remaining conscious the whole time. I mean that's why I tried it when I first started.

Originally Posted by NrElAx

But if your getting into sp a lot, I'd say just keep trying. Look at the threads that teach you how to transition from sp into the dream.

When I first started trying to WILD my limbs would get numb and I'd feel a tingling sensation and I had thought I had hit SP. I was wrong. Now that I've felt it for real it's super obvious. In fact, if you know what your doing, it's pretty hard to screw up once you're that far. I think people constantly think they've entered SP when in fact they have not.

Thanks, and I think I will keep trying with the WILD technique, it seems like it fits me since I have no problem getting into sp whenever I'm in bed.

yup havent mastered wild at all as well bud
but wont give up
hopefully one day it will click ;]

Originally Posted by Mageric

For the past couple days I have been inspired to finally figure out how to do WILD. I can successfully hit SP in minutes prior to falling asleep, but the problem is, I can't get past that point to hit the dream.
I sit up after I feel like the SP has gone usually after an hour, and do a RC and nothing seems abnormal like I'm in a lucid dream. What am I doing wrong, and,

Why do I feel like giving up right now, and that it is all a joke? I really believed in attaining lucid dreams, and it made me have a different perspective on my life. Until now, when I don't think I can do it.

Attempting to WILD at night before sleep is the worst possible time to do it. It can be done but it is extremely rare. As you are considering giving up I would strongly suggest studying this forum at depth to learn proven techniques that WILL work for you EVENTUALLY. If you want to continue experimenting with WILD's do it in the mornings after you have had a nights rest.

In the mornings? but how am I going to feel tired after that, exactly? Well I will try maybe taking a nap in the afternoon and that could possibly work.

Originally Posted by Mageric

In the mornings? but how am I going to feel tired after that, exactly? Well I will try maybe taking a nap in the afternoon and that could possibly work.

I have 6 hours sleep and get up for five miutes then back to bed. It usually takes me three quarters of an hour to go back to sleep. I then wait until I awaken again and then do my WILD routine which usually works within a minute. It's time consuming but it's the best method for me. Naps are a good time too, usually half way through your waking day. I'm fast approaching middle age and feel that time of day strongly and I can fall asleep quickly awakening a few minutes later to WILD.

I prefer to attempt WILD between 4 and 6 am so I haven't slept too much or too little. It's one of those things that you have to play around with to find what works for you.

Granted I'll admit that I've never had a WILD, or even hit SP when trying. (I woke up in SP once though. interesting experience...) But the issue for me is staying up when my alarm goes off. sometimes i just lie there and accidentally fall right back to sleep XD I blame myself for that though.

Thanks everyone. I read about the "roll" technique, and I'm going to try that out right now. Taking a nap.

Gook luck!

Well I don't think it worked. I layed on my back for about 10-20 minutes, then rolled and felt even stiffer. Nothing happened after that, if I recall, I just fell asleep and woke up. Although during while I was trying to make a dreamscene, I saw flashes of red and bright lights, and when I got excited, it went away.

Originally Posted by Mageric

For the past couple days I have been inspired to finally figure out how to do WILD. I can successfully hit SP in minutes prior to falling asleep, but the problem is, I can't get past that point to hit the dream.
I sit up after I feel like the SP has gone usually after an hour, and do a RC and nothing seems abnormal like I'm in a lucid dream. What am I doing wrong, and,

Why do I feel like giving up right now, and that it is all a joke? I really believed in attaining lucid dreams, and it made me have a different perspective on my life. Until now, when I don't think I can do it.

Trying to WILD....that's the thing that is wrong. WILDing is not the only way to LD...be creative and come up with your own method to LD based on your dreaming habits not by technical jargon in the turtorials.

IMJ

Thanks, that helped actually

pre-sleep and MILD is where it's at!!!

Yeah start with something different and easier like MILD or DILD.

Well SP feels different for everyone, that's what I think. Anything that feels different from how you regularly feel while sleeping - could be sp.

Originally Posted by Mageric

Well SP feels different for everyone, that's what I think. Anything that feels different from how you regularly feel while sleeping - could be sp.

Sleep paralysis is exactly that. Your body is paralysed and occurs when we are asleep. But here we want to induce it consciously and can be tricky. The first time I experienced it consciously outdside of sleep was twenty years ago and I didn't know what it was. I thought I was going to die. But I found out that our body becomes paralysed every night when we sleep and is perfectly normal.

Mcwillis, that's exactly how I felt the first time I had SP. I actually made myself believe it was an anxiety attack, but truly I thought I was dying when that happened. It scared me, but now that I can control it and use it as an advantage into dreaming, it's a miracle I can SP that well.