Thread: FILD Help please

Don't try and do any WILD variant before bed. It rarely works if ever.

I've never had FILD work for me. The best advice I can give is keep trying.

SP also causes really weird things like your heart beat increase. Don't worry about it.

I think FILD is like DEILD in which you don't move when you wake up AT all.

Originally Posted by gameoverlord345

I think FILD is like DEILD in which you don't move when you wake up AT all.

Not really. It involves micro movements of your fingers like an anchor.

Ah ok. Cool. Thanks guys.
So FILD is just a variant of WILD?

AND

Don't try and do any WILD variant before bed. It rarely works if ever.

But, its not absolutely pointless to try, right? Or will it decrease my chances of doing it after I wake up during the night?
Im just doing it, because im just using all the opportunities that I get to try and lucid dream!

WILD means wake initiated lucid dream. So yes a FILD is technically a WILD.

I have tried it before bed over 100 times. I had the same attitude as you. But the only two I had were after sleep depravation. And they were less than 30 seconds. Even if you do have success you will just be disappointed.

Yea lol, i know what WILD stands for
WOW! Over 100 WILDS, or FILDS?

Even if you do have success you will just be disappointed.

Well I heard that this guy does it like every night and that he gets pretty long ones? Idk. I guess it just works in different ways for different people.
Ill probably try FILD a few more times, and if it doesnt work, ill probably try go MILD.

I see that on your post signature thing it says

DILD: 8 | WILD: 4 | DEILD: 2 | MILD: 7

Could you give me a link plz to each of the tutorials for them? (Well, the tutorials which you think are "good" (Detailed), basic, and useful)

Would be greatly appreciated!

Read it again I've had 6 WILDs but tried before bed over one hundred times.

As for DILD MILD WILD and DEILD tutorials. My techniques are really just collections of what I have learned from tutorials and other members. I think experiment and find what works for me. I encourage you to read up in the wiki and use the search bar to find relevant threads. If you are interested in any one particular technique I'll write up what I do. If I wasn't on an IPod I'd write up details for all three.

Also I wasn't trying to be condescending writing out the definition for WILD. I was just showing how DEILD, FILD, and the typical WILD are just different takes on the same technique.

In a few years when I have much more experience I'm going to write tutorials for the exact way I do my techniques. And of course they will be highly refined by then.

Originally Posted by Zebrah

Not really. It involves micro movements of your fingers like an anchor.

i meant except of the movement of the fingers cause FILD revolves around that

Originally Posted by gameoverlord345

i meant except of the movement of the fingers cause FILD revolves around that

Yeah other than that you don't move.

Hey guys, you know how when you do FILD, you should only be doing it for about 20-50 seconds before you fall asleep? If you do it for longer, e.g. 5 min, does that decrease your chance of having a lucid dream? Or does that just mean that it will take you heaps longer to get to sleep?
Thanks.

Originally Posted by NightSpy2

Hey guys, you know how when you do FILD, you should only be doing it for about 20-50 seconds before you fall asleep? If you do it for longer, e.g. 5 min, does that decrease your chance of having a lucid dream? Or does that just mean that it will take you heaps longer to get to sleep?
Thanks.

I don't think so. I think that it is just a waste of time if you do it 5 min before falling asleep. Since it's only effective during the last 20 second.

I have had a couple FILD's but not many so I'm not the one to ask. Honestly I don't think that we really have FILD expert on this site.

I don't think so. I think that it is just a waste of time if you do it 5 min before falling asleep. Since it's only effective during the last 20 second.

Oh ok.. Its just because I find it quite hard to judge when I'm just about to fall asleep. So yea.
Thanks man!

Well i may not be an expert, but i've tried the FILD technique 3 or 4 times and each time i was successful with them. Lately i havent had much time to lucid dream or to do any methods so i turned to the FILD. The first time i attempted it i became lucid. However, the first 3 were short. I was lucid for about 3-5 mins. The last one however strangely enough was maybe 5-10mins long. It was very vivid and i was pleased with the lucid dream. Here's what i do. Before sleeping ill say to myself that "i will be lucid, or i will wake up randomly in the night, or i will wake up after every dream," a bit like a matra or something but you dont need to overdo it. I then go to sleep, and i happen to wake up in the night. When i wake up (this is the part you must pay attention too), i will wait for 2-3 mins to get back into a sleep state and will say to myself that i am going to do a RC. Then and only then do i begin the piano finger movement, and after 30secs-1min i do a nose plug rc and i am lucid. The reason as to why the lucid dream may be shorter with FILD i reckon is because there is lack of control, u become lucid almost instantly and it causes you to wake up.

This method works and i think this is the best method out there to become lucid. Any questions do not hesitate to ask.

Does anyone know whether or not we open our eyes when we RC for a FILD?
Much appreciated!

http://www.dreamviews.com/f49/finger...eam-fild-4779/

Thats the only how-to i could find. But FILD's have never been my strong suit so i don't know how much help i could give. Maybe get used to SP first and then try out different variants of WILDs such as FILD, but also the many other related ones. It's not the same for everyone. The person you mentioned having long lucids could just be naturally gifted in FILD the same way you might be about a different technique.

Originally Posted by jmanjohn

Maybe get used to SP first and then try out different variants of WILDs such as FILD, but also the many other related ones.

Not to bash you or anything, but I don't think this'll help. As far as I know (I read this) FILDing doesn't give you much time to "feel" SP. It's supposed to take only half a minute or so before you fall back asleep into the dream. I doubt you'd experience SP. But what do I know, I haven't done it yet! xD