SilverBullet's Newly Revised Key to Lucid Dreaming

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 06:30 PM

Ok, it's a bit difficult to explain, but here goes. It isn't exactly that simple to explain intent. Here is a quote directly from what I learned intent from, the carlos castaneda books.

"My steps and yours are guided by infinity. The circumstances that seem to be ruled by chance are in essence ruled by the active side of infinity: intent. What put you and me together was the intent of infinity. It is impossible to determine what this intent of infinity is, yet it is there, as palpable as you and I are. Sorcerers say that it is a tremor in the air. The advantage of sorcerers is to know that the tremor in the air exists, and to acquiesce to it without any further ado. For sorcerers, there's no pondering, wondering, or speculating. They know that all they have is the possibility of merging with the intent of infinity, and they just do it". -Don Juan

Intent is the force that runs and is reality itself. The easiest thing you can effect with your intent, is yourself. I learned to use my intent to become lucid in a dream. And that's exactly what happens when I dream. I don't become lucid because I noticed something was weird, I just, BECOME lucid out of no where. One way to set your intent is first shutting off your thoughts completely, at least for an instant, and feel that emotion of wanting to lucid dream.

Here's one more quote: "In the universe there is an unmeasurable, indescribable force which sorcerers call intent. Absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link. Sorcerers, warriors, are concerned with discussing, understanding, and employing that connecting link. They are especially concerned with cleaning it of the numbing effects brought about by the ordinary concerns of their everyday lives. Sorcery at this level could be defined as the procedure of cleaning one's connecting link to intent."

**timujin** · 07-13-2011 06:31 PM

Man, this post made me sure that technique is a crap. I'd better stick to ADA.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 06:33 PM

So it's more wanting to a point where you know you will achieve something, over than hoping or being really determined?

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by timujin

Man, this post made me sure that technique is a crap. I'd better stick to ADA.

Hehe, yeah I thought that would happen.

Oh yeah I want to mention one more thing, here is something Bruce Lee wrote to himself before he got famous.

Also, origami, not really. It's wanting without really wanting. It's wanting without the THOUGHT of wanting.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 06:38 PM

I get the feeling there is something to this, but it's hard to grasp. Could you try a different take on explaining it?

**Ctharlhie** · 07-13-2011 06:47 PM

The majority of lucids I've had so far were out of nowhere, no dream signs, no reality checks, there was no dream before my lucidity.

Also, cool story, my girlfriend is a life-long natural lucid dreamer, I asked her how I could lucid dream like her, she said 'don't think about it'.

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Origami

I get the feeling there is something to this, but it's hard to grasp. Could you try a different take on explaining it?

There is not really another way I can explain it. The human language is limited you know. Hahah

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

The majority of lucids I've had so far were out of nowhere, no dream signs, no reality checks, there was no dream before my lucidity.

Also, cool story, my girlfriend is a life-long natural lucid dreamer, I asked her how I could lucid dream like her, she said 'don't think about it'.

She would say that. She doesn't as she is a natural. That doesn't mean you can become a natural or get lucids more often by doing the same. Thats like asking a pro tennis player how to play tennis well. What she said is the equivalent of "Just play the game, don't try so hard".

@Silverbullet Please try, you are so confident in your abilities yet you are reluctant to a point where you don't tell anyone about it. You give really crypitc and hard to understand explainations but then say you can't explain it more.

**timujin** · 07-13-2011 06:58 PM

SilverBullet, if you get such results by sheer intention, then you ARE natural. You didn't convince yourself that you are. What you offer isn't a technique, it's just sort of aid to LDing.

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Origami

She would say that. She doesn't as she is a natural. That doesn't mean you can become a natural or get lucids more often by doing the same. Thats like asking a pro tennis player how to play tennis well. What she said is the equivalent of "Just play the game, don't try so hard".

@Silverbullet Please try, you are so confident in your abilities yet you are reluctant to a point where you don't tell anyone about it. You give really crypitc and hard to understand explainations but then say you can't explain it more.

Alright alright. Our intent is the link we have to fate. An average man barely has any control over fate and is a prisoner of it. But by using intent you control what will happen. But our regular body that is restricted by mass can not control it, only our energy body can. The energy body is the non rational body you have that you travel through dreams with. That body by itself is pure energy and appearance. It's mind isn't the same as our physical mind. The only way to isolate the energy bodies control over intent is to shut off the mind of the physical.

Originally Posted by timujin

SilverBullet, if you get such results by sheer intention, then you ARE natural. You didn't convince yourself that you are. What you offer isn't a technique, it's just sort of aid to LDing.

I'm not really a natural. I started like everyone else. I would say that I just got lucky on how my turn of events went and I learned what I did.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by timujin

SilverBullet, if you get such results by sheer intention, then you ARE natural. You didn't convince yourself that you are. What you offer isn't a technique, it's just sort of aid to LDing.

Not really he isn't. He is not a natural, natural is when you don't even try. If Silverbullet just laid back to let the LD's roll in they would stop I would think. He needs to keep his intent going.

Whatever that is.

**Ctharlhie** · 07-13-2011 07:05 PM

You forget that at the end of the day that lucid dreaming is a form of consciousness. We're all pros at being conscious, we're conscious from an early age and we do it almost all the time, without even thinking about it. You're better at being conscious than Nadal, Federer, Djokavich etc. are at tennis

So is there so much a technique to be honed here as there is a mindset to be unlocked? If any pro tennis player thought hard enough that they couldn't play tennis, then they wouldn't be able to. That's the situation that we face, we are all very capable of nightly lucidity but we face so much literature on the internet and in books that make out that lucid dreaming is a difficult task (even if that wasn't the intention).

'What she said is the equivalent of "Just play the game, don't try so hard".'

On one level, that is what she said, just do it. If we are all so capable, surely we do need to 'just do it' and stop letting our expectations inhibiting us. And isn't that the whole point of this guide?

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:06 PM

So intent is just will and immense wanting, but through the body we have in dreams? Can you suggest ways to make that body have intent?

**rynkrt3** · 07-13-2011 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by timujin

SilverBullet, if you get such results by sheer intention, then you ARE natural. You didn't convince yourself that you are. What you offer isn't a technique, it's just sort of aid to LDing.

I'm with this guy. There is a reason that this technique has worked so well for.. 1 person, and that person is Silverbullet. If this "Technique" was so great and awesome, and it worked so well, then it would have much much much more attention.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:09 PM

@Ctharlhie So what you say is that lucid dreaming is so easy, we can all just set our minds to it and do it, but the little thoughts of it being hard hold us back?

In that case lucid dreaming in itself becomes hard, and the original term for it is now invalid. No two ways about it. Someone started a chain reaction after saying lucid dreaming was hard, and thus it was hard. So now what?

Unless you can wipe all traces of text that say it is hard from the internet, lucid dreaming will always have that hint of toughness and difficulty about it.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

I'm with this guy. There is a reason that this technique has worked so well for.. 1 person, and that person is Silverbullet. If this "Technique" was so great and awesome, and it worked so well, then it would have much much much more attention.

It would have more attention if it was an actual thing. Right now it is still up in the air for us, unexplained and hard to grasp. I don't doubt that there is nothing, but right now all I see is a lot of "um.. well... It's like... uh.."

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

I'm with this guy. There is a reason that this technique has worked so well for.. 1 person, and that person is Silverbullet. If this "Technique" was so great and awesome, and it worked so well, then it would have much much much more attention.

It just depends on whether the person understands it and uses that information correctly or not, which a lot of people have trouble doing.

**Ctharlhie** · 07-13-2011 07:21 PM

A model of psychology, psychodynamics (one that lends itself readily to dreaming, Freud pretty much started the psychodynamic approach) theorises that we all have Schemas. That is, an idea of something that is based upon all our knowledge and our expectations of something. So your schema for your mother (hypothetical example) is a woman who is loving and caring. Your schema for sky-diving is that it would be a terrifying but exhilarating experience, those are your expectations.

Your schema for lucid dreaming is that very few people can do it, and that it's difficult. But we can change our schemas, as they are based on our expectations, just change those expectations. One of the best guides that far to few people here on dream views have been fortunate to read is by Billybob, he discusses how we are held back by our schemas. http://www.dreamviews.com/f14/master...-dreams-48095/

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:21 PM

Ok, clearly this technique works for Silverbullet, either that or he is a natural, but he already said his LD's are due to this method, well most of them or whatever.

The problem we face with this is because he can't describe it to us well, unlike other methods we can just read in the wiki.

From what I have gathered so far is that we need to set some serious want and determination into our dream bodies, as those are the shells we use when dreaming. Otherwise it's like furnishing a house that you don't live in.

Can you explain the "how to" then, above the "what is" Silverbullet?

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Origami

Ok, clearly this technique works for Silverbullet, either that or he is a natural, but he already said his LD's are due to this method, well most of them or whatever.

The problem we face with this is because he can't describe it to us well, unlike other methods we can just read in the wiki.

From what I have gathered so far is that we need to set some serious want and determination into our dream bodies, as those are the shells we use when dreaming. Otherwise it's like furnishing a house that you don't live in.

Can you explain the "how to" then, above the "what is" Silverbullet?

You still don't have it right. It's not exactly wanting or having full determination.

It's more of the emotion of wanting something without the physical thought of it. Physical thoughts are a barrier. But for your intent to be strong you need to cleanse the link with intent.
The effects that have messed up our link is our daily lives. We need to remove our bonds with the average human condition. Here is a way in doing that called controlled folly:

"Controlled folly is the art of controlled deception or the art of pretending to be thoroughly immersed in the action at hand--pretending so well no one could tell it from the real thing. Controlled folly is not an outright deception but a sophisticated, artistic way of being separated from everything while remaining an integral part of everything. Controlled folly is an art. "-Don Juan

Hah, sounds similar to ADA doesn't it, yet it's much more different. I actually tend to do that sometimes.
Oh and also, one of the HUGEST things that blocks us in the path of knowledge is self importance.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:35 PM

That sounds similar to a point. But this Don Juan character is your problem I think. You quote him, we don't understand, you quote him again. Even if you just give your own advice it is always put together with words and meaning by him.

Can we get the 100% original Silverbullet take on this? And leave out the big words and metaphors this time, I don't have time to sift through something when I could easily read about plain and simple if it had a wiki.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Your schema for lucid dreaming is that very few people can do it, and that it's difficult. But we can change our schemas, as they are based on our expectations, just change those expectations. One of the best guides that far to few people here on dream views have been fortunate to read is by Billybob, he discusses how we are held back by our schemas. http://www.dreamviews.com/f14/master...-dreams-48095/

Now this is comprehensive and well explained. It gives me a new perspective on lucid dreaming. It's funny how he was able to put key to screen and describe it, yet Silverbullet you still cannot get the message across to someone as dull as me. I got it from this guy, why not from you?

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Origami

That sounds similar to a point. But this Don Juan character is your problem I think. You quote him, we don't understand, you quote him again. Even if you just give your own advice it is always put together with words and meaning by him.

Can we get the 100% original Silverbullet take on this? And leave out the big words and metaphors this time, I don't have time to sift through something when I could easily read about plain and simple if it had a wiki.

Well, I'm quoting him because I'd say pretty much the same thing as him. He just explains it better than I.

Intent isn't something that can be explained easily. It's like trying to explain what a tree is to you. I could talk about it but what I'm saying isn't exactly what it is. To truly know what a tree is you have to experience it, see it. Everyone has seen a tree, but not many people have experienced intent. It's like trying to explain to a blind person what the color blue is. So maybe now you see why it's so hard to explain?

I'd say my "take" on intent is that it is a driving force that exists, like gravity, but we can control it if you know how.

Originally Posted by Origami

Now this is comprehensive and well explained. It gives me a new perspective on lucid dreaming. It's funny how he was able to put key to screen and describe it, yet Silverbullet you still cannot get the message across to someone as dull as me. I got it from this guy, why not from you?

What he explained is within the physical. And it is only a small part of my technique. Intent is so simple yet INFINITELY complex.

**Avalanche** · 07-13-2011 08:01 PM

What he explained is within the physical. And it is only a small part of my technique. Intent is so simple yet INFINITELY complex.

Yet you never really try. I keep asking for better and less elaborate explainations, yet all you come up with is another quote or another line saying how difficult it is. That's what you did just now.
You listened to what I had to say, then you affirm that Don Juan can say it better than you, even though I, and we, keep saying it is still unclear, and then you go on to stress how complicated it is to describe.

I'm not having a go at you, like you don't want anyone to know how this works or you enjoy messing people about, that's absurd.
I'm just saying you only say your way of explaining it, that, or Don Juan's way.

**SilverBullet** · 07-13-2011 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Origami

What he explained is within the physical. And it is only a small part of my technique. Intent is so simple yet INFINITELY complex.

Yet you never really try. I keep asking for better and less elaborate explainations, yet all you come up with is another quote or another line saying how difficult it is. That's what you did just now.
You listened to what I had to say, then you affirm that Don Juan can say it better than you, even though I, and we, keep saying it is still unclear, and then you go on to stress how complicated it is to describe.

I'm not having a go at you, like you don't want anyone to know how this works or you enjoy messing people about, that's absurd.
I'm just saying you only say your way of explaining it, that, or Don Juan's way.

Of course I try, I'm trying very hard. I really want you to know what intent is.

Ok, once again I'll try. There is no other way I can possibly explain intent.

Everything is created by intent and is driven by intent. Existence is intent. Time is intent. It is there, It's everything and nothing. Intent is the thing that connects everything together and allows it to interact. The average man can only barely scratch the surface of intent. It is extremely abstract.