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      Well then it's going nowhere for you. Give up on this one, it isn't working for you. A month, even 2 weeks would have told you without a doubt that it wasn't for you. You need to feel like you are doing something, actually taking steps to your goal. I could suggest a whole heap of methods for you, but you will know better than me.

      At least we know now that this one isn't compatible with you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      Well, that is exactly what I have been doing for over a month, and it has yet to give me any results.
      Tell me exactly what you done and thought to yourself.

      Remember it takes about a month to create new neural pathways in the brain (habits) so this isn't something that makes it all happen over night.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      Tell me exactly what you done and thought to yourself.

      Remember it takes about a month to create new neural pathways in the brain (habits) so this isn't something that makes it all happen over night.
      Basically I would just tell myself before bed that I knew I would have a lucid, and not give it much thought. I really don't understand how to do this.

      Could you explain to me what you do for this method?

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      Basically I would just tell myself before bed that I knew I would have a lucid, and not give it much thought. I really don't understand how to do this.

      Could you explain to me what you do for this method?
      Sure

      Basically what SilverBullet is teaching is that using your subconscious mind is pretty much essential to lucid dreaming. And I believe it is.

      The majority of your mind (5/6ths I think it is) is subconscious. Your subconscious is affected by every thought you think, and it works at making those thoughts your reality. Lucid dreaming is all in the mind, so the practice should be in the mind too, right? This technique is to create a mindset that you absolutely will lucid dream every night without fail, and then your subconscious will make that happen.

      To get your subconscious working in your favour, you need to think a positive thought in the present tense, with positive emotion attatched to it and a strong visualisation. Something along the lines of "I have many lucid dreams every night that was long and clear". Whilest thinking this, imagine yourself becoming lucid in a dream (try and imagine it in as much detail as possible) and carrying out your goals. Really convince yourself. If it's not true, lie to yourself. Force yourself to never think "I can't lucid dream." "I'm a newbie at lucid dreaming."

      Believe you are a master. Have you ever told a lie so many times that after awhile even you start to believe it? This is what you're doing. You're making yourself believe whole-heartedly that you can consistantly lucid dream whilest also making your subconscious work towards it to instead of against you. Because if you think "I can't lucid dream" it will believe that, and it will work to make sure you do not lucid dream. And remember what I said about how it takes a month to form a habit (new neural pathways in the brain that fire off neurons more easily the more you think it).

      Another important message in this tutorial is to not try so damn hard. So many people overwork themselves when it comes to lucid dreaming and then when they stop they start getting them. Don't stress relax.

      You're always relaxed because you're a master lucid dreamer, right?

      I hope that helps you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      Sure

      Basically what SilverBullet is teaching is that using your subconscious mind is pretty much essential to lucid dreaming. And I believe it is.

      The majority of your mind (5/6ths I think it is) is subconscious. Your subconscious is affected by every thought you think, and it works at making those thoughts your reality. Lucid dreaming is all in the mind, so the practice should be in the mind too, right? This technique is to create a mindset that you absolutely will lucid dream every night without fail, and then your subconscious will make that happen.

      To get your subconscious working in your favour, you need to think a positive thought in the present tense, with positive emotion attatched to it and a strong visualisation. Something along the lines of "I have many lucid dreams every night that was long and clear". Whilest thinking this, imagine yourself becoming lucid in a dream (try and imagine it in as much detail as possible) and carrying out your goals. Really convince yourself. If it's not true, lie to yourself. Force yourself to never think "I can't lucid dream." "I'm a newbie at lucid dreaming."

      Believe you are a master. Have you ever told a lie so many times that after awhile even you start to believe it? This is what you're doing. You're making yourself believe whole-heartedly that you can consistantly lucid dream whilest also making your subconscious work towards it to instead of against you. Because if you think "I can't lucid dream" it will believe that, and it will work to make sure you do not lucid dream. And remember what I said about how it takes a month to form a habit (new neural pathways in the brain that fire off neurons more easily the more you think it).

      Another important message in this tutorial is to not try so damn hard. So many people overwork themselves when it comes to lucid dreaming and then when they stop they start getting them. Don't stress relax.

      You're always relaxed because you're a master lucid dreamer, right?

      I hope that helps you.
      That helped a ton, thanks. But, how often do I say that to myself?

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      Hm, when you wake up and before you go to bed is best. But pretty much whenever you catch yourself negatively thinking about lding correct it

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      Hm, when you wake up and before you go to bed is best. But pretty much whenever you catch yourself negatively thinking about lding correct it
      How long have you been using this method?

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      How long have you been using this method?
      It's more of a mindset than a method. I done it for about a week and got 3 lucids but stopped because i've been busy. I plan to start up again over the summer.

      Think of it this way. Before I began lucid dreaming I had experienced 0. Through kinda knowing I can lucid dream (though not to the standard this tutorial suggests) i've gotten 33 this year with no techniques at all except keeping an irregular dj. No WBTB, no WILDs, no reality checking.. nothing. It shows how your thinking works. When you improve your thinking you'll improve how many lucids you get.

      That's what I think anyway

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      It's more of a mindset than a method. I done it for about a week and got 3 lucids but stopped because i've been busy. I plan to start up again over the summer.

      Think of it this way. Before I began lucid dreaming I had experienced 0. Through kinda knowing I can lucid dream (though not to the standard this tutorial suggests) i've gotten 33 this year with no techniques at all except keeping an irregular dj. No WBTB, no WILDs, no reality checking.. nothing. It shows how your thinking works. When you improve your thinking you'll improve how many lucids you get.

      That's what I think anyway
      I understand this, sort of. When you say your thinking can effect your lucid dreaming. And that you will start this back up, what do you mean by that? Am I supposed to be "Constantly" thinking " I am a lucid dreaming master" all the time? It confused me when you said start this back up, as if it takes time to think about it... I have no idea.

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      Think of it this way Rynkrt3:

      Don't think about it. Just do it, alright? Don't think when you need to do it, don't set alarms to remind you, don't stress.

      Just. Do it.

      ......

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      Even though I did say to you to give up on it, what did you do?

      You didn't.

      Thats half the battle won. You see it in yourself the capability to do this one.

      ......

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      Rynkrt, lets try something else. Lets just get rid of step 2 all together for you and do step 3. Stop focusing on how to become lucid, stop focusing on how to believe you are a master lucid dreamer, just focus on what you want to do in your dream. Like for me, my goal is to go to this place again.
      Focus completely on what you want to do, at least for now. We are just experimenting to find out if it works for you, because obviously the regular way just isn't working. When you are going to do a lucid, when your in your bed don't even think about how your going to be aware in the dream. Only thing you should be focusing on is what you want to happen when you are dreaming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet View Post
      Rynkrt, lets try something else. Lets just get rid of step 2 all together for you and do step 3. Stop focusing on how to become lucid, stop focusing on how to believe you are a master lucid dreamer, just focus on what you want to do in your dream. Like for me, my goal is to go to this place again.
      Focus completely on what you want to do, at least for now. We are just experimenting to find out if it works for you, because obviously the regular way just isn't working. When you are going to do a lucid, when your in your bed don't even think about how your going to be aware in the dream. Only thing you should be focusing on is what you want to happen when you are dreaming.
      Sounds good, I'll give it a go.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      Sounds good, I'll give it a go.
      And if you can, I would wake up every 2 hours If you really want a lucid dream.

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      THe art of dreaming is one of the most interesting books ever. I too reccomend it.
      -vusiliyk

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      Quote Originally Posted by vusiliyk View Post
      THe art of dreaming is one of the most interesting books ever. I too reccomend it.
      What was it about?

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      What was it about?
      Its a book about a guy who goes to learn about dreaming from an indian. He starts doing all sorts of crazy things in his dreams and going into wierd dimensions, and some of it effects his real life in a very odd way. You just have to read it. Dont skip the first 2 chapters. Even they are somewhat dull, they are important.
      -vusiliyk

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      So, this technique is all about convincing yourself and nothing more to get an LD? Or should it be combined with other techniques?

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      So, this technique is all about convincing yourself and nothing more to get an LD? Or should it be combined with other techniques?
      Basically, this technique is just "Knowing" you will lucid dream, and doing absolutely nothing else. It has yet to do anything for me, but apparently for silverbullet and a few others it works wanders.
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      For beginners it is often the best way, but thats VERY beginners, people who just found out about this stuff, like yesterday. Where the idea is still fresh in their minds and they have not even read anything remotely related to failures or mistakes that can happen.

      For this method to work, you need to be convinced you can do it. You can't be just thinking it, you have to feel it, and feel the feeling of knowing you can. But if you have doubt baggage it won't work.

      ......

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      So, this technique is all about convincing yourself and nothing more to get an LD? Or should it be combined with other techniques?
      Almost, but not exactly. Basically, it's setting your intent on lucid dreaming.

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      I'm sure you've already been asked this, and likely in this thread, but how do you set your intent? So far I've only put belief into this and that hasn't worked to well I don't think you explicitly mentioned it in the first post.
      My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
      Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
      Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut

      Always, no sometimes think it's me,
      But you know I know when it's a dream
      I think I know I mean a yes
      But it's all wrong
      That is I think I disagree

      -John Lennon


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      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      I'm sure you've already been asked this, and likely in this thread, but how do you set your intent? So far I've only put belief into this and that hasn't worked to well I don't think you explicitly mentioned it in the first post.
      This. What is intent and what is not?

      ......

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      Is it the difference between believing, and knowing?
      My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
      Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
      Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut

      Always, no sometimes think it's me,
      But you know I know when it's a dream
      I think I know I mean a yes
      But it's all wrong
      That is I think I disagree

      -John Lennon


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      I believe in the sun. I also know there is a sun. Is there any difference between those and intent Silver?

      ......

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