Thread: So this helped me A LOT when attaining lucidity! Give it a try

Originally Posted by MrMarley

Yeah I've watched those videos, save the last ...3. And I've watched diaries and stuff of porn addicts and even stories of porn stars who were in the biz but quit (very impacting) AT THE TIME... Lol It got me motivated and I didn't play with myself for about 3 weeks, a new PB I think without counting going on holidays, etc. But after that I was just straight back where I was O.o. I think I'll have to build the inspiration again by rewatching that ish, and try to rationalise it out why it's better not to masturbate, at least this time theres the dimension of 'UPGRADES' lol if I stop, which are fun to look out for, even if I create them myself in a sort of placebo, it's fine. One way or another I guess...

Well, I'm almost two weeks in and I haven't had any considerable problems, and while I don't know how it'll be when I'm e.g. three weeks in, I keep believing I'll make it. If you think you'll make it, you will.. But since perhaps the biggest advantage of not masturbating so far has been the improvement in my mood (no more turning hostile against my brother, etc. for no reason, generally more happy), I use that to rationalize why I should abstain from porn and masturbating. A short dopamine effect, or long lasting happiness?

Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss the experience. Maybe we can help each other out

Yeah sure, I'll go have my last wank and I'll keep you updated on how it goes for me.

Originally Posted by RemoteVicinity

I keep believing I'll make it. If you think you'll make it, you will..

Hmm, for some reason this was pretty significant. When people say 'believe in yourself' for some reason connotations of a long process and procedures come to mind and the word implies difficulty in some way. Then you simplified it with, 'if you think you'll make it, you will'. This impacts me alot more than 'believe in yourself'... I definitely think I can make it. Let's do this. LOL

I thought it was inevitable to have them during puberty.. Hmmm.

20, never had one.

Hmm, I learnt something new. Well, have fun with your first wet dream.

I think I can add a bit of explanation to this, that is if anyone is at all familiar or open to the concept of qi (also spelled 'chi'), or energy. I've read a couple books on Qigong, the practice of cultivating this energy, and in multiple sources, it's said that orgasm expels a large fraction of your bodily energy, and it takes you a day to a week or so (depending on factors like age, health, lifestyle) to replace that lost energy. Do you ever feel 'drained' or somehow a littler weaker right after you orgasm?

I'm also reading "The Art of Dreaming" by Carlos Castaneda, which describes how dreaming requires a lot of energy, especially lucid dreaming. Don Juan says that normal people hardly dream because all their energy is spent throughout their waking lives, leaving nothing for the end of the day, but people who intend to dream can save energy in order to do so. I know I'm pulling non-scientific studies from different cultures here, but I thought I'd just share my own beliefs on the situation.

I've been a chronic masturbator since I was in my teens (22 now), also a pot smoker; obviously a terrible combination for someone trying to get into lucid dreaming. I've had a few, but they were during times where I layed off the weed and the porn, both of which are things I now see as quite consumptive of my energy. Today is the first day I haven't smoked at all since about a year ago, and it's also been almost a whole week since I had an orgasm. I'm very curious to see how my dreaming goes tonight. Well, I'm off to go watch the TC's vid! G'night yall.

Also, if anyone is interested in qigong, I highly recommend "The Root of Chinese Qigong" by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming. It's a great wealth of information about the history, concepts, and practices of this ancient discipline.

Hmm, this is strange for me, I know a bit about energy and am very spiritual and am aware that having an orgasm literally just drains your energy out, but I never equated it to the positive responses people are describing in this thread. Well, +1 reason (significant one) I guess to ease off the masturbation. It's a very good explanation, but I'm not sure about dreaming (lucid or not) using up alot of energy, it seems logical though.

Can someone please link me that video you keep talking about?
I think I might need some motivation lol

So, to update my situation: I was able to record four dreams this morning in my journal; no lucidity, but a great step up from where I've been for a year! Usually I'd smoke myself to sleep and wake up with maybe a faint memory of a dream, not even bothering to write it down. Also, I haven't masturbated in a week now, and I'm feeling much more 'ready' to face the day; I just have more energy to do things, more motivation to get off my ass. It's not much, really, but small steps count a lot when I've been in this rut for a long time, repeating the same cycle of crap. Now I just have to reinstate my workout schedule that I've slacked on for the past three months.

And as for the video, it was quite informative! I think the guy was a little droning, but understanding the brain's processes and how this sort of behavior affect's ones mind is very helpful for understanding all kinds of addiction, not just porn. If anyone is still looking for it, here's all 6 parts on the web page:
Your Brain On Porn Series: Porn Addiction