Eye lids keep opening durings WILD

**Revoka** · 09-16-2012 01:41 PM

Hello DV! 2nd post and I come with a question, I practice a WILD technique which I start by counting down from 100 to 0 "100 I'm Dreaming 99 I'm Dreaming"

This has been working so far (no successful LD's but I can feel the onset of REM/SP. Still a newbie here!)

When I start derailing on my train of thought I know I'm close to falling asleep,

(through the darkness of my eyes I see random colorful objects/colors and I feel this pressure/pulsing near my eyes and body the pulse is not coming into my body its radiating outwards)

I then picture a scenario for my dream, the one I thought about recently was me laying on a couch in front of the TV and visualizing everything the TV remove feeling the couch etc!.

Then the most annoying thing possible happens I notice that my eye lid is open and I am starting at the ceiling, now at first I thought this was a false awakening, so I tried again and did a RC sadly it wasn't

any advise into helping with trying to keep my eye lid closed will be much appreciated!

Note: I am thinking of investing into a sleep mask :p and some ear plugs!

**sramsay12** · 09-16-2012 03:01 PM

Hello Marwan, I posted on your intro thread a few minutes ago.
Try "My eyes are shut" or "my eyes will stay shut" as a mantra, and if it still doesn't work, try Milds or Ssilds!

**xpin2winx** · 09-16-2012 04:03 PM

probably because your not focused on falling asleep.

**Mindraker** · 09-16-2012 04:12 PM

I just use a cheap fabric face mask that you can get for a few bucks at K-Mart. It keeps my eyelids shut and it blocks out the light.

**~~MasterMind~~** · 09-16-2012 04:48 PM

I also got this problem at first, but then I realized what I was doing wrong. When you are looking for the colors don't stare at your eyelids, just relax and let your mind's eye (visualization eye) guide you of how to "look".

One thing you could do instead of watching those patterns, is to use another dream sense to help you transition, for example imagine holding you cellphone and when you can feel it you know you are dreaming. If you try to really look with your real eyes it will be hard to keep them closed.

**Revoka** · 09-16-2012 05:24 PM

Thanks for the replies!

@MasterMind Thats exactly what I do I try and look at my eye lids and they start opening.
So wait am I meant to look at them or not

? I thought im just meant to passively look at them as they come and go and visualize a dream scene so I can transition.
Note: at the point where I start seeing these colorful images my eye also pulsates and I feel pulses leaving my body.

I also took a quick trip to the pharmacy and bought a sleep mask and some ear plugs

**~~MasterMind~~** · 09-16-2012 05:35 PM

It's kind of hard to explain...

I mean that you are not supposed to look at the back of your eyelids you are going to relax the eyes like if you were trying to go to sleep and watch the images with your mind's eye and only experience can teach you how to do that. I don't even know how I do it myself. For example if you daydream you are looking with the mind's eye and totally forget about where your physical eyes is looking, it should be the same kind of way of looking when you try to transition into a dream, which is why you shouldn't look at the back of your eyelids at all.

When you look at the back of your eyelids you strain the eyes and sooner or later you will open them because you are trying to see.

I might have done this very simple tip very complex by now...

So try your sleep mask and see if it helps you