Thread: Instant Lucidity!

I was wondering how most people become lucid in DILDs. In 6 out of my 8 Lds I became lucid at the start of the dream for no apparent reason. How does this happen? How common is this for other people?

Try finding out yourself. Review what you did the night/day before your Lucids. Retrace your activities. You will probably find a pattern.

For me instant lucidity is rare but it has happened a few times over the years. I have had incredibly detailed lucid dreams when entering dreamland lucid. They are transcendent experiences I believe and , for the most part, seem to involve flying.

i am very jealous.

In my first 6 DILDs, I spontaneously asked "wow, am I dreaming?" and my hands come to my view to count my fingers but by then, I know.
Since then, I say I'm dreaming and do variety of different RCs.
Once I heard a voice saying "I wonder how long it will take her to realize she is dreaming"
Once I noticed something strange

Most of the time I become lucid naturally, without having to use any induction techniques but usually the dream progresses a bit before I reach full lucidity and can start to manipulate aspects of the dream world.

As to how this happens, I doubt anyone can answer this for at least a few decades. Perhaps certain people are more capable of relaying and receiving information to and from the dreaming part of the brain. Even so, I'm making huge jumps in scientific reasoning.

This 'ability' if you like is extremely rare; only a handful of people from the lucid dreaming community can spontaneously become lucid like that. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Having said that, I'm quite positive that more advanced, motivated lucid dreamers are able to do this over months or years of practice.

Sweet, I have a gift

Originally Posted by 123north123

Sweet, I have a gift

Not really, This is most common with a people who are new to lucid dreaming and have a huge motivation. Use to happen to me all the time when I first started and some of my friends who I taught how to lucid dream.

Do you perform any RC to become lucid?

I thought this was how everyone became lucid? I do RC's during the day and lots of autosuggestion and other little rituals, but I never become lucid from trying a RC, or from noticing anything strange. It's weird. Like OP said, a dream will start and right from the beginning I'll just somehow KNOW that I'm dreaming, like I'm just automatically more aware than in other dreams from the get go. Generally speaking there are never any particularly bizarre things going on in these dreams, it's usually very tame and normal, but after a little while I just suddenly WHAM into full lucidity, like I just suddenly choose, "Okay, time to act," and suddenly remember whatever I had planned to do and become wholly in control. This is how ALL of my lucids have occurred, I've only ever used RCs to confirm that I was lucid when it already was the case, or to stabilize. I never seem to become lucid as a result of recognizing weird events or doing reality checks. I become lucid in this fashion a few nights a week.

For people who don't do this, what is becoming lucid like? The thing that's strangest to me is that my non-lucid dreams tend to be significantly foggier than my lucid dreams, which are crystal clear as waking life. The dreams in which I become lucid START OUT already clear as hell, and I suspect it's that very clarity that triggers my lucidity. For others, do you start out foggy and then your dream self does the RC and then you become lucid FROM the RC?

Originally Posted by ThisWitheredMan

I thought this was how everyone became lucid? I do RC's during the day and lots of autosuggestion and other little rituals, but I never become lucid from trying a RC, or from noticing anything strange. It's weird. Like OP said, a dream will start and right from the beginning I'll just somehow KNOW that I'm dreaming, like I'm just automatically more aware than in other dreams from the get go. Generally speaking there are never any particularly bizarre things going on in these dreams, it's usually very tame and normal, but after a little while I just suddenly WHAM into full lucidity, like I just suddenly choose, "Okay, time to act," and suddenly remember whatever I had planned to do and become wholly in control. This is how ALL of my lucids have occurred, I've only ever used RCs to confirm that I was lucid when it already was the case, or to stabilize. I never seem to become lucid as a result of recognizing weird events or doing reality checks. I become lucid in this fashion a few nights a week.

For people who don't do this, what is becoming lucid like? The thing that's strangest to me is that my non-lucid dreams tend to be significantly foggier than my lucid dreams, which are crystal clear as waking life. The dreams in which I become lucid START OUT already clear as hell, and I suspect it's that very clarity that triggers my lucidity. For others, do you start out foggy and then your dream self does the RC and then you become lucid FROM the RC?

how long do your lucid dreams last once you find out. like you, my DILDs usually never spark due to some occurance, It was always spntaneous. My DILDs usually happend near the end of the dream where the analytical part of your brain starts to wake up while the dream still occures. By this time you could lenghen your REM period to make the dream last longer but usually they slowly fade away.

I don't do RCs to become lucid, I just do. I might just be recognizing how the dream world feels and realize that it is a dream. A method I'm in the middle of developing is: before I go to bed I recall EVERTHING I did in the day backwards, go to sleep, when I wake up in the middle of the night I record any dreams I can remember, go back to sleep, and so on. If I'm feeling really ambitious, it tends to work better.

In a lot of my lucid dreams it just happens, it's like a switch in my head is turned on. I just do reality checks to be 100% sure. I thought it was like this for everybody?

Yea.

I think it might be pretty common. Although I don't become instantly lucid right when I start a dream it never really feels like it's that far into it. It just happens, I get that feeling.. can't really describe it but I just know and I still do reality checks afterwards.. Just in case.

This happens about half of the time for me. The other half has just been noticing weird things around me, or doing RCs after false awakenings.

I occasionally have a DILD where I become lucid pretty quick at the start of the dream, and it's due to that "feeling" you described 123north.

The other way I become lucid instantly is with a WILD. Basically I WBTB, then as I get drowsy enough, I feel/hear these odd vibrations, then a picture forms on my eyelids, then I "open" my eyes but I'm in a dream, already lucid. It's a seamless transition from awake to a lucid dream, so it's instant lucidity in that regard. But I'm not sure if that's what you were talking about.

Oh, I was talking about DILDs. I have yet to carry out a WILD or one of its variations.

Time is really difficult for me to gauge in lucids, but maybe 10-20 minutes? Depends on what I'm doing. I rarely seem to wake up naturally during a lucid, always seems to happen because I try to do something that ends up collapsing the dream. I write down the times I wake up beside my dream journal notes throughout the night, and based on that, I seem to be becoming lucid at all different points in the cycle, be it 20 minutes after I went back to sleep or an hour.

Which begs the question, if I become lucid early on in the cycle, does that mean that my lucid dreams could run over an hour if I were able to keep stable that long?

Originally Posted by ThisWitheredMan

Which begs the question, if I become lucid early on in the cycle, does that mean that my lucid dreams could run over an hour if I were able to keep stable that long?

Or maybe even the whole night? An 8 hour lucid dream!

About a week ago I was thinking about lucid dreaming at night and had a dream and knew that I was dreaming without even thinking about it or reality checks. I woke up right after that and it was only 5 minutes after the last time I looked at a clock. I guess it's an accidental WILD?

I usually become lucid at the begining of the dream for no apparent reason and do a RC. Otherwise I just know I'm dreaming then do a RC. I think this is because the RC dosen't get you lucid, it's the fact that you question the reality. Some people who just does RC without really questioning reality don't get lucid by doing it.

I have had a decrease in my lucid dream frequency. For a while, I was having 2-4 lds per week. Now I'm down to one per week if I'm lucky. My last was last Monday.

Skipping thru half the text in this topic..
When I get lucidity, it all depends. Two of my lucids were at the start.
My first lucid was a WILD, so straight into the dream, but still in bed sort of thing, it was weird.
My second involved a short story beforehand, about getting a lucid dream inducer, which I used and got lucid after. (Went back to bed after first lucid, not quick enough to be a DEILD, but not a WILD, I think this was a DILD)
My third was lucid from the start, a DILD.
My fourth lucid had short story beforehand, then I just knew I was dreaming.

In all 4 lucids, I never reality checked. I just knew I was dreaming by the feel of it, and that sustained me. Now in the one I rubbed my hands frequently to keep it going, but thats about it.
Do I have a gift? I don't think so. I find it strange though how I have never really reality checked in dreams not at the beginning or any time through, when I think I am dreaming, I know I am.