Thread: Is this my REM timing?

So i went to sleep on 12PM and woke up for some reason on about 3PM. i remember having a dream at that time, does this mean my REM sleep starts after 3 hours?

Not exactly. REM starts at about 80 min after first falling asleep. First REM lasts about 10 min. So the first sleep cycle is 80 min NREM and 10 min REM.

As you sleep, NREM gets shorter and REM longer. After maybe 7-8 hours of sleep, almost all of the cycle is REM. NREM is very short.

When you remembered a dream at 3, it just means that that's also when you had REM.

BTW, are you talking about nap from noon to 3pm? If this was after a normal, full night of sleep, then your nap is almost all REM. It's because yur body knows this is extra sleep and it doesn't have to go through the deep, restorative sleep in NREM. It goes almost straight into REM. That's why naps are a prime time for a lucid, especially WILD.

Originally Posted by gab

Not exactly. REM starts at about 80 min after first falling asleep. First REM lasts about 10 min. So the first sleep cycle is 80 min NREM and 10 min REM.

As you sleep, NREM gets shorter and REM longer. After maybe 7-8 hours of sleep, almost all of the cycle is REM. NREM is very short.

When you remembered a dream at 3, it just means that that's also when you had REM.

BTW, are you talking about nap from noon to 3pm? If this was after a normal, full night of sleep, then your nap is almost all REM. It's because yur body knows this is extra sleep and it doesn't have to go through the deep, restorative sleep in NREM. It goes almost straight into REM. That's why naps are a prime time for a lucid, especially WILD.

i'm trying to FILD here, but i don't understand. when am i supposed to wake up?

Not sure, but I would try each time I wake up at night.

Or set your alarm in the middle of the REM. You can calculate that approximately from time you fall asleep, if you know each cycle is 90 min long. Aim for the end part of the cycle, where your REM is.

I think after 5 hours of sleep It's alright.I've succesfully had FILD 3 times by waking up after 5 hours of sleep.

Originally Posted by Noeul55

I think after 5 hours of sleep It's alright.I've succesfully had FILD 3 times by waking up after 5 hours of sleep.

REM cycles are different from person to person, so 5 hours of sleep for him might not be appropriate.

When I first started and wanted to know my REM cycles this was what I was told to do - drink a lot of water right before going to bed, this would cause me to wake up after a REM cycle in order to go to toilet. Then just set the alarm to 10/15 minutes before that. We always wake up after a REM cycle, we just don't realise it unless we have a reason to: taking a leak

If you don't want to go through all that you could go through trial and error. I think for most people REM cycles happen after 4:30 and 6 hours of sleep.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

REM cycles are different from person to person, so 5 hours of sleep for him might not be appropriate.

When I first started and wanted to know my REM cycles this was what I was told to do - drink a lot of water right before going to bed, this would cause me to wake up after a REM cycle in order to go to toilet. Then just set the alarm to 10/15 minutes before that. We always wake up after a REM cycle, we just don't realise it unless we have a reason to: taking a leak

If you don't want to go through all that you could go through trial and error. I think for most people REM cycles happen after 4:30 and 6 hours of sleep.

Oh I see,well after 5 hours of sleep worked for me and for alot of people,Maybe it will work for him too.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

REM cycles are different from person to person, so 5 hours of sleep for him might not be appropriate.

When I first started and wanted to know my REM cycles this was what I was told to do - drink a lot of water right before going to bed, this would cause me to wake up after a REM cycle in order to go to toilet. Then just set the alarm to 10/15 minutes before that. We always wake up after a REM cycle, we just don't realise it unless we have a reason to: taking a leak

If you don't want to go through all that you could go through trial and error. I think for most people REM cycles happen after 4:30 and 6 hours of sleep.

Thanks for the tip, another problem is really preventing me from this. I Wake up but i don't feel sleepy so i go back and sleep normally. just when do i start using my fingers?

@TheAssassin56
I am not very familiar with the FILD technique, all I can do it direct you to this tutorial. Hope it helps.