Thread: How long does it normally take to get SP??

WILD has never personally worked for me either. all I can say is if you aren't already try mixing it with WBTB. I'm not sure at what point in the day you are doing it but I heard its easier to do with WBTB

Originally Posted by wannabelucidity

WILD has never personally worked for me either. all I can say is if you aren't already try mixing it with WBTB. I'm not sure at what point in the day you are doing it but I heard its easier to do with WBTB

It's easier because after WBTB your time between REM periods are shorter, which means you have less of a NREM barrier to cross before reaching lucidity. It's very difficult (impossible for most of us) to WILD at bedtime because you are crossing roughly 80 minutes of NREM sleep, including 30-40 minutes delta sleep, where it is very difficult to be aware. That is like dream and sleep yogi stuff. Some members seem to have explored NREM 2, though, where (I believe) it is still possible to have dreams.