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      How long does it normally take to get SP??

      I'm so confused about this. So I try the lucid dream technique where you lay down and then don't move for awhile. (Idk if this is even a technique) so I will usually stay for like 30 mins not moving and I never get to SP.
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      I'm not sure If I can help you on this, but perhaps you focus on what happens inside the head intensively, if you just watch whatever happens, perhaps it's easier (more or less just let things come, more or less just falling asleep).

      I have tried to WILD just as I was going to bed and that was hard, but the point is, if you wake in the morning, get up from bed (maybe to drink or anything) and then go to bed and try to WILD it's much easier, for some reason you get into the REM sleep easier.

      That's when I get my sleep paralysis of wierd sensations and vibrating and much stuff.

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      It's called WILD. Something I try that seems to work more often than not is to (yes) lie still in shavasana (corpse pose) and rest my awareness on body and breath (for me, more body than breath). Don't focus hard, just rest. If thoughts come to mind, release them. Try to avoid associating with your thoughts in anyway. Just let them come and go. Eventually I feel a mild rush and then I can either get out of my body, or I black out and come to cognizance wandering around my apartment. At that point, just do a reality check and you're good to go! Regular meditation has helped me calm my mind for the attempts.

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      You will probably never get to consciously exprience sleep paralysis in your lifetime. It is not something you can naturally induce. However the next best thing that you can induce is something similar to it known as REM Atonia however when you do start to exprience it if you truly wanted you can move your limbs during the exprience. To cause REM Atonia you'll need to be relax physically and mentally. You have to stay calm and not think a lot, think of nothing because the more you think the more you'll stay awake and the more the brain will know that you are awake. If done right it should only take you 20 mins at most to start expriencing REM Atonia, then you'll begin to exprience hypnogagic imagery. That will be your key in fully getting rid of feeling physical and if you're still aware at this point very soon one of the imagery will place you in a dream.
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      Your goal with WILD is to get into a dream, you may or may not feel paralysis coming on, most of the time you probably won't.

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      The method you are trying is called WILD
      Purpose of it is being mind awake while your body falls asleep or is asleep
      So simply said main goal is to fall asleep but retain consciousness

      I suggest you reading those threads
      They explain quite well WILD related things
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ild-guide.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...-key-wild.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...ml#post1831882

      WILD Progression Outline - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...mystified.html
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      WILD has never personally worked for me either. all I can say is if you aren't already try mixing it with WBTB. I'm not sure at what point in the day you are doing it but I heard its easier to do with WBTB

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      Quote Originally Posted by wannabelucidity View Post
      WILD has never personally worked for me either. all I can say is if you aren't already try mixing it with WBTB. I'm not sure at what point in the day you are doing it but I heard its easier to do with WBTB
      It's easier because after WBTB your time between REM periods are shorter, which means you have less of a NREM barrier to cross before reaching lucidity. It's very difficult (impossible for most of us) to WILD at bedtime because you are crossing roughly 80 minutes of NREM sleep, including 30-40 minutes delta sleep, where it is very difficult to be aware. That is like dream and sleep yogi stuff. Some members seem to have explored NREM 2, though, where (I believe) it is still possible to have dreams.

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