Still Cannot WBTB

**Avian** · 11-22-2014 02:28 AM

I posted a thread explaining on how for some reason I always go back to sleep when I should WBTB. Someone recommended drinking a lot of water before going to sleep, which I did. I woke up some time during the night, went to the bathroom, went back to sleep. I was at most 25% conscious and in the morning I barely even remembered it. What can I do to solve this issue? I can't make any progress if I can't even WBTB.

**AstralMango** · 11-22-2014 02:39 AM

So you were slightly aware in your dream, but then you couldn't remember most of it in the morning? I think it might be your dream recall that's the problem.

**Avian** · 11-22-2014 02:58 AM

I'm sorry I did not explain it correctly. I didn't have a lucid dream. I meant I was at most 25% conscious during my WBTB. I went back to bed and entered black-out sleep.

**AstralMango** · 11-22-2014 03:02 AM

Oooh! Well then, I think you should stay up a bit longer for your WBTB; everyone's different with it. Experiment with different times to see what suits you best.

**cooleymd** · 11-22-2014 04:59 AM

why not set two alarms one after the other that should keep you awake for 5 minutes or so

then once up, do something, I usually build puzzles on computer, or better yet for activating brain in the early morning so the next morning
I will wake up (active brain) in the dream as I sleep in, is to play minesweeper at high speed. So high a speed that I often blow up, but
I force my brain to be at full blast thinking. The next day if I am asleep when I was up the previous night at that time playing high
speed minesweeper, I am more likely to trigger.

**Avian** · 11-26-2014 12:33 AM

Thanks, good ideas. The double alarm might just work. I can do WBTB, but I simply don't get up.

**Sensei** · 11-26-2014 12:47 AM

WBTB is not a technique that will work on its own. You are doing WBTB, just a small one. if you are not very aware during a WBTB, you can always do some push ups or something. Normally the reason that you are unaware is that you are not on a consistent sleep schedule anyways.

I usually do about 4-5 WBTBs a night, I call them micro-WBTBs. I wake up for a max of 5 minutes and just reset intention, pee if I need to, and go right back to sleep. It is hard to do if you are not well rested. If you are well rested and have good recall it will happen automatically.

Also, an alarm is a device that kills recall. I hate it more than anything. I would recommend the water without alarm and some intent to wake up without the alarm until you get used to it.