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      Yes you have understood me i think.

      The recognition of the nature of mind is a pervasive theme on spirituality, but it's quite a neglected one i think.
      Most modern day pop meditation techniques operate on a dualistic context, with very much emphasis on states of consciousness, and not so much on insight about consciousness. But most ancient traditions deal with the nature of mind, specially and unfortunately after a long process of gradual practice and teaching that builds momentum and desire for the recognition, usually at an advanced level.

      Most of this remains to be studied and aplied on a secular level, mostly because of the secrecy of some teachings, and the dificulty to frame it in a nonreligious, nondogmatic level.

      Mindfulness is not a tool to realize the nature of mind.

      So, no, it's not widespread yet, although there is already scientific research going on.

      There's plenty of sources of study ( i am most familiar with the teachings of tulku Urgyen rinpoche and his sons) but unfortunately you have to be ready to swallow a little bit of strange jargon and need a little of guidance, probably in human form, to help you not to lose yourself on the subtleties of the process.

      It's a great risk if one misunderstands the nature of mind ! that's why the secrecy.
      Nevertheless, that's something we should all be familiar with i think.
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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      There's plenty of sources of study ( i am most familiar with the teachings of tulku Urgyen rinpoche and his sons) but unfortunately you have to be ready to swallow a little bit of strange jargon and need a little of guidance, probably in human form, to help you not to lose yourself on the subtleties of the process.
      I was going to refer you to the Buddhist practice traditions of Mahamudra and Dzogchen, as the discovery and stabilization of the experience of abiding in the nature of mind is the central concern of both, but it sounds like you are already familiar with them as you mention Tulku Urgyen and family. They are, of course, peerless modern masters of these traditions.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KonchogTashi View Post
      I was going to refer you to the Buddhist practice traditions of Mahamudra and Dzogchen, as the discovery and stabilization of the experience of abiding in the nature of mind is the central concern of both, but it sounds like you are already familiar with them as you mention Tulku Urgyen and family. They are, of course, peerless modern masters of these traditions.
      Yeah, they have a¨particular genius at pointing the nature of mind ! Nice to hear from another adept
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