Quote Originally Posted by ezzolucid View Post
Thanks for the comments guys. For the last 10 nights I have been setting the auto snooze for every 15 minutes after 5 hours of sleep, the alarm auto shuts off after 2 seconds and i am able to keep still upon awakening. I then try to deild by simply trying to go back to sleep whilst retaining slight awareness with the use of a mantra 'i am dreaming' I have only had 1 success where my hands started to go numb so i started to FILD and this led to me dreaming about rubbing my hands and i became lucid that way.

With so many attempts each night (8 to 12) Im unsure why i am not having more success. I understand the basics of how to WILD / DEILD and have succesfully WILD in the past

Is this a case of a technique that takes time? Maybe 1 success per week gradually going up over time due to persistent pracise and habit forming or is this something that I am getting fundamentally wrong somehow?

I always wait about 5 hours before the alarm starts to go off. It sounds every 15 mins for 2 seconds then shuts off on its own, I keep still , calm and simply try to reenter the sleep / dream state. I NEVER remember the previous dream upon awakenings and NEVER visualize to try entry. I simply remain still and observe the falling asleep process with a mantra. (im happy for the dream to begin in the bedroom) A lot of tutorials advocate entry in this way if visualization is not someones strong point

I also get to bed at 11pm every night and awaken at 7.30 so i have a steady sleep schedule. I havnt been doing reality checks or ADA / Mindfulness during the day as I cant see how these are helpful for a Deild or Wild (or maybe im wrong?) :-/

All help is very welcome, thank you
Ezzo
Well I think that in retrospect, I try to WILD about 35 times a week and have about 2 a week with the last 3 and a half years of practice. As little as that seems from all of the practice, it would be a lot less if I didn't have the DILDs as well. Knowing the feelings of dreams is going to make it easier to enter.

I recommend working on both. If WILD or DEILD isn't working, then just back away and sleep trying to DILD. Awareness and all of that day work isn't just for incubation, but also for keeping lucidity and remembering goals etc. If you have no practice with awareness, then you are going to have a hard time LDing, even if you get into a WILD, you are cutting yourself short. You will have less WILDs if you don't DILD,and vice versa.
Here is my thread mainly about induction. I link it a lot, but I feel like it has a lot of my favorite ideas and things that I love repeating:
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...s-secrets.html