Thread: What am i doing wrong? Please help

You don't have to try to wake up, you already do. What you're trying to do is notice yourself waking up. You often wake up after your dreams.

Keep in mind that sleep cycles aren't always 90 minutes. From my experience, they range from as high 2 hours to as low as 15 minutes. For me, they usually range from 1 hour to 30 minutes later in the night.

If you just pay attention to what happens while you're sleeping, you'll notice the stuff that you should.

Ok, how do i do that? Im normally out like a rock all night, i tried to drink lots of water before bed a couple times and ended up waking up to my alarm normal time but busting for toilet or needing to go before i even fall asleep fully. Would that be apart of mindfulness training? Or just telling your self to do this every single night until one day it starts happening? Would the subtle alarm idea not help in making learning to wake up after cycles faster? Thanks dolphin

Okay, so how I started noticing my micro-wakenings was through dream recall, you say you have trouble with this but before I re-learned what LDs were I had the same issue and never recalled dreams unless they were completely out of the ordinary and because they were dreams discarded the memory of them.

Literally all I changed was my intentions as I went to bed. "I will remember my dreams." "I remember my dreams." and "I will realise I am dreaming." as I went to sleep worked miracles for me. They didn't get me lucid but who cares, all of a sudden within a week I am recording between one and three dreams a night, and the ones I don't have control over are still quite exciting to re-count, read Shooting Digger, a ND of mine and tell me you wouldn't have thought of that during a LD, I love my NDs, and love being able to recall them. because I enjoy reading my dream journal my mind seems to interpret this as something that is important to me and naturally develops a recall upon awakening.

The use of the term "tagging" a dream during a micro awakening, for your information, is simply realising you have just left a dream, using something substantial from that dream as a "point to remember" before going back into your REM sleep. I can recall on a good night four dreams without stopping between each and recording them individually because of this tagging. I either use something significant from the beginning or end or the most vivid part of the dream as an anchor, when I wake and meditate on that anchor I can recall the rest of the dream around it.

All this from my intentions being shifted as I fall asleep to "I will remember my dreams." or "I remember my dreams." All you have to do is mean what you internalise when you use these as your mantras, within a few days/weeks, you will even realise when you micro-wake.

Originally Posted by Mikeyy109

Im normally out like a rock all night

Sleep more. The more you sleep, the lighter your sleep will be. If you don't have time to sleep more, you could also try to fit in a nap during the day.

If you have a day off, keep sleeping in as much as you can it's impossible to sleep anymore. You'll notice that the more you sleep, the sooner you wake up after falling asleep. Also, the longer you sleep, the easier it will be to recall dreams because your body doesn't need as much slow-wave delta sleep any more, so you go into REM a lot quicker.

Originally Posted by dolphin

Sleep more. The more you sleep, the lighter your sleep will be. If you don't have time to sleep more, you could also try to fit in a nap during the day.

That would be amazing if i could lol. Unfortunately i have a 2 year old thats obsessed with me, plus another one on the way. Currently i have to get up at 6.30 every morning to give me 10-20mins for recall practice and journal writing before he starts calling for me. So best i can do is get to bed earlier, which is currently 10.30 earliest, any earlier and im not tired/losing all my free time :/