Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
It seems like the less effort I put into lucid dreaming the better I do. I hardly try as it is but it seems like when I'm not even thinking about lucid dreaming I seem to do better. I wonder if this is true for others who are trying hard to lucid dream but can't.

This is kind of frustrating because I like to think about lucid dreaming. I like to try out different stuff to see how I could make myself and others better lucid dreamers. It's kind of gauche to tell others to quit trying to lucid dream in order to get better, but now I don't think I could now give other advice on how to lucid dream without being a hypocrite.

I'm trying to go back to simply telling myself my dream goal before going to sleep by thinking about as little as possible. No day work as usual, just trusting that I can lucid dream without trying. In order for me to stick with this, I need to not care whether I lucid dream or not.

Yes I know what you mean here Dolphin - it's in the general attitude and hard to explain without making it sound black and white ...but you gotta know it ...it's like when you know anything - you don't realy worry about it anymore but it is a part of you so it doesn't leave you ...something like this.

It reminds me of the ' Zen mind beginners mind ' saying a bit because it's about keeping things fresh without a bit of anxiety and a touch of non-botheredness as a way of accomplishing