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      D.E.I.L.D thoughts??

      This is something I haven't tired but have read up about.The hard part of course will be to train myself to stay still upon awakening which I can eventually concur by certain mantras I assume.
      My questions are as follows:
      *how long did it take for you to train yourself to wake up and be still?
      *how effective is this technique
      *any tips or tricks that will help for someone who hasn't tried yet?

      Thanks =D
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      It didn't take me too long to train that. I can't remember exactly how long, I don't think it was even 2 weeks.
      I didn't specifically use mantras, but I thought about it a lot through the day and before going to sleep, effectively working like mantras.

      But the thing that helped most was, if I woke up and forgot to stay still, the moment I realize I forgot, I'd go ahead and lay back down and close my eyes and try to WILD. Unsuccessfully at first.
      But I did this every morning I had the chance, and it reinforced the thought in my mind, "Staying still upon waking up is IMPORTANT". And of course, whatever our mind considers important, is what is remembered.

      DEILD was massively effective. I even gained the ability to wake up for a few seconds then WILD normally.

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      Wow that's wkd! I think I'm gonna try this technique as i have been relying mainly on D.I.L.D for the past year and it has only gotten me as far as 2 a month =/
      Did u stop or change technique? By the way you worded your reply made me think u stopped it for a while? Thanks for the reply =D p.s once u was able to do DEILDS how often was u able to become lucid...let's say a week? Thanks =)

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      I was never able to train myself to stay still after I wake up. But that doesn't seem to matter, at least for me.

      For me, there are 2 different types of awakening. One, when you wake up and immediately forget about sleep and your mind is flooded with things you need to do that day.

      Second type is, when you wake up while you are still half asleep. Basically you gain awareness while still asleep, getting out of a dream. Then, and only then, I personally can stay still, not open my eyes, and lay there patiently for the next dream to start which I can enter. I can only do this, because I'm not fully awake yet. I can't control this, it just happens. So I lay there waiting for the next dream, entertaining myself by having or invoking some cool HH, or just being amazed how clearly I can think rationally while I'm clearly still asleep.

      Amazingly, more this happened, more I got used to this. I was able to chain 7-9 DEILD long chains, which lasted anywhere from 30 to 90 min. Since then, I'm not worrying about not moving when awaking. Instead I know, that it will happen when time and conditions are right.

      This doesn't mean of course, that other can't do it. Many people do it. Training to stay still and successfully entering another dream lucidly.

      I think it's important to let things happen. Being prepared by practicing and setting intent. But beyond that, accept what will happen and be opened to any experience that will happen. Take it all as something cool, even if it doesn't end in a lucid dream. For me, the journey is as important as the destination.

      Have fun and happy experiences!

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      Yes, setting intent is key. For me the most powerful way I've found by writing my intent in the DJ before bed (well, while I'm in bed, but before falling asleep). I'll write out a mantra that I then repeat over and over. And I also found it was best to change the mantra a bit over the next few days. Adjust it trying to find the optimum way to say it - cut out all extra wording but not too much, don't use future tense (such as "I will" or "when I notice"). Instead say it all in present tense such as "I notice I'm dreaming", or for setting a DEILD intent something like "I lay still without moving, think about the last dream, and fall back into it" or something similar. You've got to make sure your mantras aren't too complicated or long, but that they get the message across clearly. By writing it in my DJ I make it something special and impress it much more deeply into my mind.

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