• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 7 of 7
    Like Tree15Likes
    • 4 Post By dolphin
    • 5 Post By Sageous
    • 3 Post By Patjunfa
    • 3 Post By sivason

    Thread: How silence/noise affects chance of lucidity

    1. #1
      Seeker Of More Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal 1000 Hall Points Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class
      d3nd3's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2010
      LD Count
      12
      Gender
      Location
      United Kingdom
      Posts
      94
      Likes
      15
      DJ Entries
      5

      How silence/noise affects chance of lucidity

      Hi dreamviews,

      Someone in my house makes a lot of noise in the morning, they get up before me and i can hear them through the walls. When they are doing this I feel very irritated and accuse them of decreasing my chances of lucid dreaming. But is there any basis to that?

      If one is sleeping in a noisey environment might they maybe shut their awareness off intentionally so they can better fall asleep? Also the distraction inbetween dreams and sleep cycles, the ability to focus on intentions and dream memories?

      I wonder sometimes if I had a perfect silent home to wake up into, how much easier it would be for me? I even have the idea to mb wake up early, so that i can nap in the afternoon when they are not here.

      What do you guys think?

    2. #2
      Member Achievements:
      Veteran Second Class 5000 Hall Points Tagger Second Class Vivid Dream Journal Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze
      dolphin's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2012
      Gender
      Location
      the Pacific Ocean
      Posts
      2,237
      Likes
      2964
      DJ Entries
      152
      My condolences. I hate sleeping in a noisy environment!

      On one hand, this is indeed affecting your chances of lucid dreaming because it is distracting you, but on the other hand, the noise is only a distraction because you are making it one.

      If the home was perfectly silent, it would be easier in that a present distraction would not be there anymore, but other things on your mind other than sleeping or lucid dreaming could still distract you in the same way.

      The noise is a distraction because it is important to you. This is because you have correlated it with decreasing your chances of sleeping and lucid dreaming. That is understandable. However, consider this: would the noise be important to you if you were not trying to sleep or lucid dream? If so, consider these reasons why, because these are also reasons why the noise is important to you, and therefore a distraction. If not, simply removing the correlation between the noise and your chances of sleeping and lucid dreaming will make the noise lose it's importance, which will make it so that it is no longer a distraction.

      Just accept the noise, taking comfort in the fact it won't affect your chances of sleeping or lucid dreaming if you do not make it important.

    3. #3
      high mileage oneironaut Achievements:
      Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Stickie King Populated Wall Referrer Silver 10000 Hall Points Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class
      Sageous's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2011
      LD Count
      35+ Yrs' Worth
      Gender
      Location
      any quiet place
      Posts
      4,831
      Likes
      6753
      In addition to Dolphin's excellent answer, d3nd3, you might consider masking the noise with white noise of some sort.

      A steady noise that is slightly louder than the sounds you hear can help eliminate the distraction. There are plenty of white noise machines on the market, but I've found that a good fan running in the room can be enough in itself (though I use a fan and a white noise machine myself, as I am easily distracted).
      TravisE, sivason, d3nd3 and 2 others like this.

    4. #4
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered Veteran First Class Referrer Bronze Made Friends on DV 5000 Hall Points
      Patjunfa's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Ireland
      Posts
      144
      Likes
      94
      ~Another thing to do is get some earplugs. When I'm setting up conditions as best as I'm able (with kids in the house), I go into the spare bedroom for 2nd half of night, put in ear plugs and use an eye mask. (if using earplugs regularly good to put some olive oil in ear occasionally to prevent ear wax compression). Can be very frustrating where after a long journey back to sleep you then are awake in response to noise in the house.
      Yet I agree with Dolphins thoughts. Its possible at other times to not feel at all reactive to various sounds in the environment. I know people who manage to use sounds around them as a support in sleep practices, much the same way that the breath can be a support in meditation.
      I try to create the best conditions I can and then work as well as I can with what happens (which is beyond our control).
      Good luck with
      d3nd3, zelcrow and DarkestDarkness like this.
      " The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche

    5. #5
      Moderator Achievements:
      1 year registered Made lots of Friends on DV Vivid Dream Journal Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points Stickie King
      sivason's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2007
      LD Count
      2,500ish
      Gender
      Location
      Idaho
      Posts
      4,052
      Likes
      4730
      DJ Entries
      350
      All valid good ideas. Here is another thing you can try. Redirect your thoughts that arise when you hear a noise. The normal process is to try and determine the kind of noise and if it effects on you. If instead you practice telling your self that the sounds are from inside a lucid dream, and make up fictitious answers to your minds probing, you may be able to benefit from the noise.
      Say you hear the shower start up, do not think, "darn that is the shower, I am awake, so and so is making noise." Instead you hear the shower and fill in the idea that it is a sound coming from inside your dream. Shower starts: "oh! I must be dreaming! I can hear the sound of a waterfall. It is so vivid I must be very close to seeing it too!"
      Last edited by sivason; 08-05-2018 at 12:01 AM.
      Sageous, TravisE and zelcrow like this.
      Peace Be With You. Oh, and sure, The Force too, why not.



      "Instruction in Dream Yoga"

    6. #6
      Member Achievements:
      1000 Hall Points Vivid Dream Journal Made lots of Friends on DV
      zelcrow's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2018
      LD Count
      8
      Gender
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      122
      Likes
      43
      DJ Entries
      157
      I agree. All good ideas. I've been using earplugs when I hear people moving around. I have bought both the foam kind and the silicone putty type. Ultimately the silicone putty type is more comfortable for me as the foam kind make the insides of my ear feel almost raw or something after a while. I'm living in an apartment right now so it can help. And sivason's idea is pretty great. I'd like to incorporate that myself. When I can hear things in the future I'm going to attempt to perceive the unwanted noise differently and use it to my advantage.
      Also, as mentionedy by Sageous, I have been using an air filter to create some white noise. It is helpful, though the sound of it turns up in my dreams. I'll be talking to someone and hear this loud noise and only realize what it is up awakening.

    7. #7
      Moderator Achievements:
      1 year registered Made lots of Friends on DV Vivid Dream Journal Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points Stickie King
      sivason's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2007
      LD Count
      2,500ish
      Gender
      Location
      Idaho
      Posts
      4,052
      Likes
      4730
      DJ Entries
      350
      Plus 1 here on the white noise thing!
      Peace Be With You. Oh, and sure, The Force too, why not.



      "Instruction in Dream Yoga"

    Similar Threads

    1. Lost chance for lucidity
      By riz in forum Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams (WILD)
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 11-19-2013, 08:29 PM
    2. Missed a great chance at lucidity.
      By ryman in forum General Lucid Discussion
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 02-13-2012, 08:53 PM
    3. Replies: 6
      Last Post: 05-04-2010, 05:24 PM
    4. Gain a better chance at lucidity
      By Theskit in forum Attaining Lucidity
      Replies: 4
      Last Post: 04-22-2008, 01:40 PM
    5. Die In Silence
      By Vandrosdis in forum Artists' Corner
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 11-15-2005, 09:25 PM

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •