Thread: DEILD - Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream

I really like the sound of this! I always wake up in the middle of the night but I always either open my eyes or move. So I will just practice not moving/opening my eyes when I wake up. Hopefully I recall my dreams tomorrow morning and get a DEILD!!!

Ugh...how should I word this... Which is more important, staying absolutely still, so that your whole mind goes to that, or relaxing, and if you have a twitch or something, just let it happen... Sorry, that was badly worded, but it's the best I could do.
Also, how long does it take to go into SP? I need to know how long I should lie there, before I can give up and record my latest dream in my journal. Thanks
~rvdork

would this work for a power nap?

Originally Posted by Psionics

would this work for a power nap?

Why not ?

Originally Posted by Psionics

would this work for a power nap?

As long as you have a preceding dream, why not?

If you're just going from wakefulness to dreamland, that would be a WILD

how can i train myself to wake up after a dream?

What is Recall? This may sound stupid

Recall is how many dreams you remember upon waking up and in what level of detail.

Thank you so much for this post!!! I will try it tonight.

I had a few of these last night directly after waking up. no vibrations or bad sleep paralysis or anything, I just closed my eyes, saw a light and used it to "crawl" into a dream. It wasn't very detailed and I couldn't control it well and had little recall, but I was lucid. Maybe I should have woken my mind up a little more beforehand.

I don't seem to have a problem with getting these if I move a little bit, I could have sworn I moved and opened my eyes.

Need help in getting started with this technique, so im asking all the wisest. I have great recall and wake up after every dream. But they are non-lucid. Cant seem to wake up b4 the rem period ends. I wake, see the trailing HI, try getting back by focusing on my non physical body and all my senses, or staying still (which is easy for me)but it just fades away. I actually came to this idea b4 reading about it here, and think this is the way to go. But I cant seem to find success. If you have any suggestions, please reply Klace (or anyone else who can do this at will).

Wow, I do this every night and never realized it was a real technique lol. I lucid dream every night due to this...I never read about it though lol.

Wow! Lucky you. I havent been able to do this technique even once yet. Maybe you could say, step by step, how you do it. It would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by jose

Wow! Lucky you. I havent been able to do this technique even once yet. Maybe you could say, step by step, how you do it. It would be greatly appreciated.

I just made a thread about it. It's not quite the same but it works the same. It's called "entering into a dream without losing consciousness" or something like that. If you have any questions just ask.

Had a bit of double luck, but it didn't fully turn me lucid.

Went back to sleep in the morning and towards the end of my dream as I was strangling some bad guy with a shrinking head, I thought that it was strange and shouted out I was dreaming...but woke up.

However I managed to stay still as the dream collapsed as I woke up. It was weird waking up with my eyes closed, but I tried to continue the dream in my head but I was in a very uncomfortable position. I did get a few "lurches" (weak versions of that "shift") though.

thanks for this post. this brings up my oft-considered dilemma of whether to write down a dream, thus getting out of it, or going back in with hopes of a DEILD. most of the time it doesn't work right out of a dream, but it does work if i have already been lucid.

Originally Posted by Prince_RIP

I just made a thread about it. It's not quite the same but it works the same. It's called "entering into a dream without losing consciousness" or something like that. If you have any questions just ask.

Where can i find your tutorial/thread-"entering into a dream without losing conciousness"? Ive tried this method and lose my conciousness every time. Granted, ive had plenty of false awakinings, but i never seem to stay aware or reality check during these awakinings (no matter how much i affirm to do so while drifting off)

Originally Posted by jose

Where can i find your tutorial/thread-"entering into a dream without losing conciousness"? Ive tried this method and lose my conciousness every time. Granted, ive had plenty of false awakinings, but i never seem to stay aware or reality check during these awakinings (no matter how much i affirm to do so while drifting off)

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=94333

Originally Posted by Prince_RIP

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=94333

i just read your technique and am amazed because the same thing with music happens to me. i dont actually try to think of the music, it just happens (i get a song stuck in my head). So i should just go with this? It would be great because i thought it was something i had to fight, and get back to a mantra like- "the next time i dream i want to realize im dreaming." Ive never experienced the sliding off the bed or anything, but i'll take it just to get there. I average about 1 ld per month, and thats not enough. i want to do this at will.

Originally Posted by Klace

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POST TWO: deild2
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PREPARATIONS IN ORDER TO BECOME A DEILD'er
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Step One: Dream Recall:
-In order to effectively use DEILD in your lucid dreaming endeavors, your dream recall must be average, I recall
around 10 dreams a weeek and DEILD is very effective every time I wake up from a dream. Of course if you don't
recall any dreams ever, DEILD is not for you, unless you wish to make a conscious effort on increasing your dream
recall. If you wish to increase your dream recall, there are tutorials on it in the tutorial section, make sure to
have a look, otherwise, if your recall is normal, continue on...

Step Two: The Dream is over, don't move!
-Once your dream is over, you will be aware what you have just experienced is a dream, usually you change postions,
and/or open your eyes while doing so, but in order to perform a DEILD, you must do none of the above!
Keep your eyes shut and do not move when you awaken from a dream. Of course if you move a part of your body slightly
you may still have a chance to succeed, otherwise, you must wait till you wake up from your next dream!

Step Three: Seems hard, I'll need to teach myself to stay still!
-It is actually not hard at all, with some autosuggestion. This will teach yourself to remember when you wake
up from a dream, and program your subconscious to not move or open your eyes once this happens, there are many
ways of doing this, but my favorite is to download a program called "Brain Bullet", and make a new affirmation file
with everything you want to remind yourself to do upon awakening from a dream. (Mostly not moving and keeping your
eyes shut), and once you can do the two major things, continue on!

Step Four: Okay, I'm staying still with my eyes shut, what now?
-Simply wait! After a few moments you may enter sleep paralysis immediately, which can be something very scary,
but it means you no harm, so ignore it and/or as stated above, adopt a curious attitude toward it.
It usually lasts about a minute or less, and if you concentrate on the blacness in your eyes while they are shut,
you will most likely enter a random scenario, or open your eyes in your dream room. But if you want to end
up in a location of your choosing, try this:
1) During SP, visualize and concentrate on where you want to be after sleep paralysis, and let the scene engulf
you in the form of HI, until you are completely inside of where you visualized.

Step Five: Amazingly easy! But how can this double my lucid rate!?
-Very simple, in a lucid dream, you catch the awkening point MUCH easier than in a normal dream, so you can keep
your eyes closed and stay still while the dream fades out, however if the dream ends with no fading out, it may
require some more practice! But it's simple other than that, you can now have lucid dreams every night you have
normal dreams, and multiply them by however long your REM period is!
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Hey ... I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand you...
Don't move as soon as my dream is over?I don't usually wake up when my
dream is over...I wake up when I'm done sleeping...
Question 1: Were you trying to say "Don't open your eyes or move as soon as you wake up?" if not...
Question 2: What's the other technique of knowing when a dream is over?
Sorry to bother,
Thanks,
Sam

Sam- since no one else has replied, I will jump in with whatever limited knowledge I have of this technique.
You can train your mind to wake you up after a dream-I think we all do anyway for a second but we go straight back to sleep and don't remember ever waking. That's the autosuggestion, it's not that hard to train yourself to do. Just say something like "I will wake-up after my dream and remain still" or something over and over before you go to sleep.

Question 1-yes, the point is to make as litle movement as possible so try not to open your eyes or move, if you do it a little bit you still may be able to perform the technique.

Question 2-I don't know what other technique you are referring to, but another way is to set an alarm that goes off for a few seconds that you don't have to switch off yourself-this should wake you up just enough to perform the technique. I sometimes get my mum to ring my mobile a couple of times in the morning-because she gets up before me, she's cool like that. Anyway someone else can correct me if I've got any of the points wrong but I've performed this a couple of times with success. Just wanted to answer your questions as no one else had. Hope this helps a little.

Originally Posted by mutualdreamer

how can i train myself to wake up after a dream?

Try doing MILD, at least eh first part. That is what I am doing right now and it is working with waking me up.

I occasionally use this technique. This may sound strange, but sometimes after waking from a dream ill try to get lucid, and within 2- 5 sec ill start to get this strange wave like vibe pop in across my chest to my head, that is totally not sp it will get faster and faster, then just stops and ether ill just lay there and basically fail at wilding or it will immediately become very intense sp. I will say again this is not a hallucination but a real pee sp sensation that always happens for me. Does anyone hear have any clues as to what that is? Have any of you felt this prier to sp kicking in? I think it has something to do with the rem cycles in some way.

Something that really helped me to improve my dream recall was to drink one or two glasses of water before going to sleep. what will happen is that you will wake up after a REM period has ended, and you will want to go the washroom. Try staying in bed for a little while and think about people, places you sometimes dream about. eventually you will remember something. I hope this helps.