Thread: DEILD - Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream

Originally Posted by Klace

Heh, that's actually genius.
Thanks for your input.
Does your lucid repeat menu play the same theme from the game when you die?

Yeah, it does play the music. I'm surprised I still remember it; it's a GameBoy color game that I haven't actually played in at least 2 years...

Okay, it won't let me edit my initial post, so I just want to post instructions from the not so visited Research Section DEILD topic for people to read, and just to get some life back into the topic.


NEWS: If you wish to partake in this technique study, simply put a counter for DEILD's in your sig, and count it up whenever you have a lucid from this technique, if you chain lucid's, put how many you chained in your sig as well, get to it!
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Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream (DEILD)
By: Klace
FAQ
1: What is DEILD(Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream)?
DEILD, is a method created by me, Klace as a sort of "substitute" for the WILD process, this technique is nearly exactly like WILD exept it only take a few moments to perform, does not interrupt your sleep, and as long as you do it right, will have a 100% success rate.

2: How did such a method come to be?
This method started a month or two ago, and developed up until now, when I felt it was good enough to give out to the public, I woke up in a SP state and used it to chain a lucid dream, I tried to teach myself to do this after every dream, and I made a set of instructions so that you can do so as well, and have many lucids a night depending on your dream recall or if you remember waking up in the middle of the night.

3. Seems simple, how did it take months to make?
Yes, it does seem very simple. But alot of time and effort was put into making a set of instructions that can be performed by anyone with some practice, as long as you keep practicing you will find that this technique works amazingly well, some may not even need practice!

Instructions:
Sorry to make you read through the FAQ to get to the instructions, but the FAQ covers everything you would need to know before you
can do this technique. read it, and you can become a DEILD'er!

STEP ONE:
Have many Dreams, You wake up from them all, which is where this technique is performed!
The first step is, you want to make sure you remember that you wake up from all your dreams that you have, and teach yourself to remember this, no it's not hard at all, and does not require much practice, odds are, everyone here already remembers when they wake up from dreams because they write in their dream journal.

STEP TWO:
Teach yourself to NOT move at all, and keep your eyes closed when you awake from a dream.
When you awake from a dream, you must teach yourself to keep your eyes closed and to not move at all, I don't have any scientific explanation to back me up here, but I think this naturally causes your body's REM period to continue because it thinks you are still asleep. Now you will enter Sleep paralysis momentarily, and it can be a scary experience, but tell yourself, It's not real, your body is doing this naturally and it is not dangerous, no harm can be done.

STEP THREE:
Stay still in sleep paralysis, and a few moments later, Lucid away!
Momentarily, after sleep paralysis starts, you will be in a lucid state, and can do what you want, this is basically like WILD, it offers the best possible lucid dream and is very stable, and controllable depending on your person. Now do whatever you wish for this lucid dream, when you feel the dream fading away, proceed onto Step four for chaining lucid's, have as many a night as you are able to!
IMPORTANT: If you can't get past SP and it fades out and you feel too awake to do it again, do an RC, Chances are you are dreaming, try it out.

STEP FOUR:
When you feel the dream slipping away, now is the chance to make your body stay still no matter what, you know you are waking up, and you can stay still after you wake up, back to back lucid's!
When you wake up from a lucid, you know you are waking up because mostly, it just fades away, while it fades away, just stay completely still when it's fading away, and then when you wake up, do this and you will chain many lucid's together a night, no problem.
This could be named the new Holy grail of lucid dreaming, with practice, you can have as many lucid's a night as you want, and as many as your body will let you!

I have tried Deild many times and I cannot see what I am doing wrong.

When I wake up from a dream, I will not move, when I wake up I will feel very uncomfortable (the body testing the mind to see if its asleep) and my breathing is also hard to keep in a regular pattern. I think I'm really close, but I don't know how long to wait before the dream begins.

SugarGlider, what you posted, seems to me the onset of a Lucid Dream via DEILD. You did not mention however, if your eyes were closed.
If they weren't, they must be.
If they are, it seems you are almost there, just be patient in your attempts.
(Not too patient, if you lie their for like 20 minutes trying to DEILD you are basically just performing a WILD, as DEILD is just an incredibly shortened WILD).

Yes my eyes were closed, I think I'm giving in to the uncomfortable feeling, how much longer should I wait, I wait about 30 seconds, but when I am in the half sleep state I think its longer and just give in and move.

Whenever I've experienced a DEILD, the transition was near instant.
Or at most, a minute.
I'm not sure exactly what to tell you, except that it's necessary you experiment until the technique works, because it seems you have been performing all the pre-requisites flawless.
I may also suggest trying a WBTB/WILD combination, because if you can do that, once you get used to the SP feeling and how your body enters lucid dreams from a waking state it may be much easier for you.
(Also, if you perform a WILD, you can use it to chain many DEILD's)

When I enter Sp during a wild It feels like I am spinning, but during Deild It feels all tingly. I think its just that I give in. The other day I tried Deild an in about a minute I entered a non lucid dream, I am just going to be patient next time.

okay. how can u do this if after u dream ur REM is done isnt it? also how can u train urself u not to open ur eyes after a dream? atleast 90% of the time I open my eyes. One more is it 100% that when u enter a dream lucid?

Lone, all you have to do is have the intention, if your eyes are open for a seconds I think you can keep on going. Also your rem period isn't over, if you go back to sleep it will start again. If you do this this right it should be close to 100%, tonight I will wait more than 30 seconds before I stop.

Lone, I have some advice for you, try to write correctly, if you do you are more likely to get replies from people and they will take you more seriously.

lol yeah I read everything.... I do its just that I was in a hurry so I wrote like that. Im def. gonna try this tonight. Good Job Klace

I was going to edit it out after I saw another of you posts, I'm sorry. Good luck though.

edit:woot, It worked this morning. When I was trying some words appeared that said "just fall into it" so I did. I felt sleep paralysis come on and in a few seconds I was dreaming. The dream only lasted a few seconds though.

This worked great for me for inducing and chaining recallable dreams. I think I recalled more dreams last night/morning trying this than ever before. They were also very clear and involving, and some of them even involved light superpowers. None of them, however, were lucid.

Thanks to DEILD again this morning I had around 5 lucid dreams, all fairly good length for me, though I was really trying WILD, I still view DEILD as a type of training wheels for WILD.

I've gotten better at deild, when I wake up if I can't do deild successfully I simply loose conscious, and then seem to regain it very soon after in which case deild can be done.

The funny thing about methods like this and wild with me, is I have FA's where I successfully wild, and it puts me down when I wake up after the lucid and relise I was dreaming even before the wild/deild.

Though I can usualy instantly tell apon waking reather I can do it or not, if I can't I just slip out of conscious as fast as possible only to wake secounds later, till I can do it, but still I wish you could improve the tactile sense, by puting your mental state in the correct state, such as learning to shift conscious states, my friend says this is possible, and he does it whenever he wants.

Originally Posted by MoD

If anyone wonders where he/she can get BrainBullet. The answer is here.
You will need a BitTorrent program like Azureus,Bitlord,uTorrent etc.

Argh, can you upload that somewhere else? because I tried both limewire and utorrent and the torrent doesn't download on any of them (the dl speed is stuck at 0kbps, with no seeds)

This technique was described in Stephen LaBerge's Exlporing the World of Lucid Dreaming in 1990. The only difference was that he didn't name it DEILD.

Sounds great. I just need to realize the point of waking.

I think Brain Bullet is sort of a placebo. It hasn't really been scientifically verified the effectiveness of subliminal messages.

So far I haven't had an LD with any method but I can sort of do a DEID instead of DEILD because when I wake up and realize I was just dreaming, if I don't move and focus on the dream with my eyes closed I re enter the dream, or enter a similar version of it. I have to figure out how to realize I'm dreaming while I'm in one of my many vivid dreams.

Wow, bravo I am definatly gunna try this tonight, lol I even had to do a RC just to prove to myself this technique is THIS GOOD! Also were is the auto segestions?

I had tried this once. Although I still moved (into a more comfortable position) and I just laid there for 20 minutes without any effect.

Because you moved.....

I tried this last night, not much sucsess, but hey I dont only sleep once, ill try again tonight

Had my first LD last night. It ended fairly quickly, but I remembered to try DEILD. I kept my eyes closed and after a moment felt odd, vibrations through my body and heart was pounding fairly quickly. I was kind of confused but a moment later I was in another LD.
I guess it worked. Whoo!

Do you have to count to keep yourself aware or anything? So you don't enter non-Ld?

Just think of were you wanna go

grr after my FILD tonight, Im gonna try this tonight. ill Post back with restults after.