Thread: Lucid Dreams don't exist!

I read it all without stopping. And people say I have a short attention span? Feh. They're just boring writers/speakers. Anyway, lots of philosophy here. Yup. May take me a while to sort through my total opinions on it. I'll spout whatever I have to say for the moment.

I agree that we cannot define abstract qualities like consciousness, intelligence, etc. We try to categorize these things because we like to; it is our nature. But just because there is no clear-cut line does not mean these qualities do not exist, right? Surely there is a practical difference between comatose and conscious, even if the line be blurry? Then why must you say that 'lucidity,' the 'knowledge' that one is dreaming, does not exist? Lucidity is in the same category as consciousness. There is a practical, although blurry, line between lucidity and non-lucidity.

Because we all do not have the same mind, our views on these definitions are entirely subjunctive in nature. So in theory, none of these qualities can really exist. But for practical purposes, for communication and growth, we try to create general definitions for them.

So yes, for all practical purposes, lucid dreaming 'exists.'

... Straying from this point, I'm just going to chat about this quote:

"Whether a dream is lucid or not has no inherent value to the dream itself."

Sure it does. You just have to look at it in the right light. In all of my summer lucids, I soaked up the experience, and just relished the fact, and pondered the fact, and marveled the fact that I was in a dream. That no matter how real it felt, I was actually in my bed. And I let that feeling, the feeling that our entire lives are subjectively experienced (just like the dream state) overwhelm me... It's important not to lose sight of that. Any good lucid dream must start with this fundamental awe. Awe breeds thorough consciousness, and signals to your mind that it's something you care about. I take note to make "feeling lucid" the top priority on my lucid task list. For if that is not accomplished at a satisfactory and thoughtful manner, then no lucid really matters.