Thread: Do you get tired from WBTB?

Sounds like you are breaking up your delta sleep too much, but depends when you are waking?

Normally if you wake after about 5 hours for WBTB you should be okay, but wouldn't want to do this everyday.

When I was experementing with a technique i was putting together I found that after 4 solid days of getting up after 4-5 hours I was getting tired because I was breaking up my delta (deep) sleep - But after 5 hours was easier to manage.

I will say though I also noticed that doing it so often in a row, meant that I needed more deep sleep to recover meaning less REM sleep, which could impact lucid dreams.

Adam.

Yeah, I've been a bit too fanatic about it. Just didn't want to miss any chance

I allways fall back asleep very easily, so it's not a fact of missing sleep-hours.

Adam, you might be right about waking up too early. Last 2 days I woke up after only 4 hours, because I went to bed too late. I'll sleep normally for a few days and then try again every other day, or maybe even less. Plus waking up after at least 5 hours of good sleep.
Thanks for sharing!

As for what i learn, learning has some stages
1. You establish a habit {this takes time and loooots of effort}
2. Incubation {you dont do anything, and let it organize itself in braing from itself}
3. You enjoy it, as it feels normal now
4. Supporting the habit {this applies, when you dont use what you learned for some time, and you have to bring some effort to support it}

Now enjoy phase 2. I think

How are you waking up? I am completely against using alarm clocks, they are unnatural and jerk you out of sleep. This is supposed to be done naturally. If, for example, you wake up in the middle of your deep sleep cycle then you won't go back into it; that's not how the body works. Wake up naturally, an easy was to do this is to drink a lot of water before bed.

I know where you're coming from.. sometimes it feels like every night that I don't have a lucid dream (the vast majority of nights then ) is a night wasted.. but I'm currently only trying WBTB on the weekend.. at least then if you feel tired you can lie in...

...although I didn't "get up" until 4pm today, and I still haven't actually left my bed... I really do take the 'lie in' thing too far, don't I.......

Originally Posted by ninja9578

How are you waking up? I am completely against using alarm clocks, they are unnatural and jerk you out of sleep. This is supposed to be done naturally. If, for example, you wake up in the middle of your deep sleep cycle then you won't go back into it; that's not how the body works. Wake up naturally, an easy was to do this is to drink a lot of water before bed.

Well, an alarm is really the only way I can wake up before 8.00h
I never wake up during the night :-( Maybe if I really drink a lot of water, that could be an idea for next time (when I'm off polyphasic sleep, that is)

Originally Posted by LibLord

I know where you're coming from.. sometimes it feels like every night that I don't have a lucid dream (the vast majority of nights then ) is a night wasted.. but I'm currently only trying WBTB on the weekend.. at least then if you feel tired you can lie in...

Yeah, that's it!
I was so fascinated by lucid dreams, I just couldn't wait to have one and tried everything possible, only to wake up disappointed if it didn't happen that night. Now I know there's other techniques that can be done during the day, plus I've started a polyphasic sleeping 'experiment' and won't be able to WBTB at this time.

...although I didn't "get up" until 4pm today, and I still haven't actually left my bed... I really do take the 'lie in' thing too far, don't I.......

Hahaha, that is really lazy But if you have the chance to do so, enjoy!

of course being really tired helps a whole heap load for ld